Very good an intuitive video especially for a beginner like me who has that common "fingertip" ride. The bike shops that I have been to miss that concept. This will help me slot. Thx for posting.
Very informative video..I bought a bike with dropped bars for the first time, and I was wondering why it was so uncomfortable..Now I can make some adjustments and see whats working best.
If instead of writing we'd be chatting I'm sure we'd agree. I'm giving the impression that I don't enjoy nor accept the advantages of an upright position: I'm a chimpanzee :) On an easy short bike stroll it's great! On the long run it's torture, back muscles, shoulders & butt ache. It isn't only aerodynamics, it's about sharing the torso & head weight with arms & hands not to mention maneuverability, lowering of the gravity center thus facilitating turns & steering control.
@cuevarap if not comparing motorbikes, cruiser bikes also have upright sitting for the comfort reason. sitting on a stool with table support is more comfortable than upright without support because without the table support the body muscles have to work to keep the body balanced. On a bicycle both arms on the handlebars already helps with balancing. Also, sitting on a stool is straining because the legs never straighten to relax the muscles so its very different case.
@thenande No doubt an upright seems confortable. But the more you ride, even on an easy commute (no necessary aerodynamics) the forward inclination (40 to 45°) is more muscle relaxing, reduces disc strain & permits a shock absorbing elboy motion . It's different on a motorbike with fixed bent knees, soft wide seat & almost no muscle effort. e.g. If sitting upright on a stool (no back support) one feels tired: supporting both elboes on the table is very soothing.
@cuevarap scientists optimise only for speed because speed is what makes champions and what gives bikes reputation. Even without considering swinging arms when walking, long distance motorbikes have upright sitting position for the most comfort. The more you lean forward the more weight is support by arms, shoulders, stomach, back. When you are upright the seat handles all the supporting in straight line until ground. more weight at back wheel is fine because bike is rear-wheel drive.
@thenande Yes, but the walking position goes together with natural arm swaying motions synchronized with steps. An upright riding position is indeed confortable (great for short strolls) & feels cool at first but it ends up straining your shoulders & butt, putting most of the weight on the back wheel and less traction in front. As too much a forward position kills your neck. Scientists have done their homework here.
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TurkiyeCumhurbaskani 1 month ago
Very knowledgeable.
johsy 6 months ago
isn't the guy on the bike Bill Murray?
amoxicillino 8 months ago
Very good an intuitive video especially for a beginner like me who has that common "fingertip" ride. The bike shops that I have been to miss that concept. This will help me slot. Thx for posting.
stairs021 1 year ago
Very informative video..I bought a bike with dropped bars for the first time, and I was wondering why it was so uncomfortable..Now I can make some adjustments and see whats working best.
jerlinjames 1 year ago
If instead of writing we'd be chatting I'm sure we'd agree. I'm giving the impression that I don't enjoy nor accept the advantages of an upright position: I'm a chimpanzee :) On an easy short bike stroll it's great! On the long run it's torture, back muscles, shoulders & butt ache. It isn't only aerodynamics, it's about sharing the torso & head weight with arms & hands not to mention maneuverability, lowering of the gravity center thus facilitating turns & steering control.
cuevarap 1 year ago
@cuevarap if not comparing motorbikes, cruiser bikes also have upright sitting for the comfort reason. sitting on a stool with table support is more comfortable than upright without support because without the table support the body muscles have to work to keep the body balanced. On a bicycle both arms on the handlebars already helps with balancing. Also, sitting on a stool is straining because the legs never straighten to relax the muscles so its very different case.
thenande 1 year ago
@thenande No doubt an upright seems confortable. But the more you ride, even on an easy commute (no necessary aerodynamics) the forward inclination (40 to 45°) is more muscle relaxing, reduces disc strain & permits a shock absorbing elboy motion . It's different on a motorbike with fixed bent knees, soft wide seat & almost no muscle effort. e.g. If sitting upright on a stool (no back support) one feels tired: supporting both elboes on the table is very soothing.
cuevarap 1 year ago
@cuevarap scientists optimise only for speed because speed is what makes champions and what gives bikes reputation. Even without considering swinging arms when walking, long distance motorbikes have upright sitting position for the most comfort. The more you lean forward the more weight is support by arms, shoulders, stomach, back. When you are upright the seat handles all the supporting in straight line until ground. more weight at back wheel is fine because bike is rear-wheel drive.
thenande 1 year ago
@thenande Yes, but the walking position goes together with natural arm swaying motions synchronized with steps. An upright riding position is indeed confortable (great for short strolls) & feels cool at first but it ends up straining your shoulders & butt, putting most of the weight on the back wheel and less traction in front. As too much a forward position kills your neck. Scientists have done their homework here.
cuevarap 1 year ago