Slavery In The Bible- Part 1, Presuppositional Foundations

This is the first video in a multi-part series on slavery in the Bible. Christians are continually beat over the head with verses from scripture that unbelievers find very easy to dismiss as evil acts of the God of the Bible. Tragically, it seems that most Christians avoid this topic mostly because this is a difficult issue to put in proper biblical perspective and the scriptures associated with this topic, even in context, are difficult to reconcile especially considering the times we live in and the history we know which dramatically colors how we view this subject.

This first part is an introductory video which introduces the book I'm using as a reference and I lay out 5 key presuppositional foundations to consider in order to set the proper tone for our forth coming discussions in comment sections. My goal in laying this foundation is to avoid off-topic questions and criticisms while at the same time aiming to create an open, non-threatening venue for respectful and constructive dialogue.

The book I introduce in this video as my main source is called, "Slavery In Biblical Perspective", by James B. Jordan. You can obtain a copy of this book from his catalogue at:

http://www.biblicalhorizons.com

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• sin

[edy066]

if only people who turn to god can join him in heaven, then what happens to the slaves themselves!

what happens to the poor children in africa who can barely eat or to my ancestors(native new zealanders who didnt have any access to the bible)

or the children murdered at columbine high

maybe your book of answers can help.

you say all man are sinners, why then does the bible state that there are some perfect men who do not sin

may your god strike me down an bless all beleivers with good health

[bberchin]

@edy066 The Bible deems no man as perfect and sinless.

[edy066]

@bberchin jesus was perfect an so was job, what i dont understand is why so many people can enterprit the bible so differently

[bberchin]

@edy066 Jesus was (is) perfect because He is fully God and fully man; He and the Father are one. Job was not perfect- he was blameless; above reproach. If you knew the Hebrew you would know that.

[cupwithhandles]

Most Christians don't know what the bible is. It is a compilation of writings assembled by Emperor Constantine, and is essentially his creation. To make the leap that it's the word of a god is incredible.

[pyrobryan]

My presuppositions that you must agree to in order to have a discussion

1 If you believe in god, you are delusional.

1.1 If you are delusional, you cannot agree to rational discourse because your perception of reality is questionable and cannot be trusted.

I'm not saying you have to agree with these presuppositions, you just have to accept them for the purpose of this conversation.

Sorry to be rude about it, but this video just pissed me off.

[pyrobryan]

Your presuppositions are ridiculous

4. Man is evil.

4.1 Not believing 4 means you are evil.

That's circular logic. Do you believe that babies lay there & think of ways that they can commit evil? If man is predisposed to be evil, then this must be true because an infant has not been taught how not to be evil.

How can you say that these suppositions aren't meant to stack the deck? They're complete bullshit and leave no room for actual discussion that doesn't agree with your preconceived ideas.

[pyrobryan]

Wait...so

1.1 The scripture is 100% true

1.2 we as non-believers must must look at the scripture for what it says

1.2.1 we as non-believers, by definition, cannot understand the scripture

And you're not stacking the deck? Right.

Ahh, the old "you weren't a TRUE christian." argument. You just lost all credibility. This is the weakest & most transparent fallacy. Christians love to claim the good people as christians, and disavow those who they don't agree with as "not true christians". Weak.

[strikenetter]

@peterlabrie1 Yes Allah is their god and savior. Just as many believe Jesus is god and their savior. When i said savior i didn't mean Allah was a profet as Jesus. I know muhammed is their profet, but not their savior. lol. Thanks for the vids.

[peterlabrie1]

@peterlabrie1 as far as death for apostasy,thats as far as i know a little extreme.i know of families disowning there children but death is not what musslims would need to fear,although that has happend.i will say that the power of knowing the lord and not being ashamed to preach it has got many many people stoned and crucified.they willingly testified of Jesus knowing the cost.now that is what the power of the Holy Spirt of truth will do in a believers life.i personaly would die for my faith!

[peterlabrie1]

@strikenetter great question but I think your a little confused about isam.allah is not there savior he is God. muslims believe in the profits in the bible in fact you cannot be a musslim and not belive in the writtings of moses and the profits, and Jesus.in any case just because ur taut something dosnt mean you must believe it all your life. at one point one must be responsible for there own faith and make sure they know why they belive what they believe. i was taught catholic and sought truth.

[strikenetter]

Good video and i say this as an atheist as spreading the word is to only spread the gospel as directed. Im fed up with Christians telling me i havn't put in my time in my search for god, or my search for divinity was fallacy. I have read the bible, the gospels. To say i have read it in its entirety would be a lie. I can not conceive morally that all children born at birth are sinners. This to me is asinine to think our children are paying for the sin of the first woman on earth. Much more also.

[strikenetter]

@peterlabrie1 I have to ask, are all other religions inevitably doomed for hell. They believe alternative gods to be their savior. I was just curious. For instance, Islam, children are taught Allah is their savior, this is indoctrinated with the threat of death for apostasy. Are you saying they should risk death to seek the alternative, the bible? There is much controversy in regards.