Human rights abuse in Australia! (Canberra rally)
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A wise muslim once said "We will use your democracy to destory your democracy."
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@ditrapped The Rushdie fatwa cannot be looked at alone. It seems the announcement of this punishment is more of a political announcement versus a political announcement (against Islam) as in the case of S. R. You should have greater awareness of the political situation of the time, as well as the context of the author etc. Of course, there has been a lot of discussion regarding the validity of the fatwa. All in all, you should look at the general principles, rather than specific cases.
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@ditrapped Actually, for your information, which i am sure Fox news and other sources prefer to disclose; in much of Europe there are severe punishments of Holocaust denial and even more sever punishments for insulting or degrading events in that regard. The punishments begin at around 3 years imprisonment. You can do your own independent research. i wonder why you have not blamed 'secularism' for this intolerance?
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@Justiceinaustralia Punishment for somebody who denies the holocaust? no punishment, people have the right to say what they want, and that right is important, regardless of what I think of it, but when making such stupid claims expect people to say something back. If somebody draws a degrading cartoon regarding the holocaust? people can draw whatever they like, doesn't mean I'm going to break down they're door, and try to chop them up with a axe, like what the muslims are doing.
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@Justiceinaustralia on blasphemy what about Rushdie? Ayatollah Khomeini of Iran issued a fatwa which called for Muslims to kill Rushdie and all publishers of his book The Satanic Verses, Japanese translator was stabbed to death, Italian translator stabbed but lived, Norwegian translator injured. fact is people are persecuted there If your not muslim. Lady I was talking about sorry but that was in Pakistan another Muslim regime.
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@Justiceinaustralia I said known to be, and ended it with justly so. so don't try to get me on a technicality "In Iran nobody in it's history has been executed as a result of these things." you know why? cause Iran president says nobody in Iran is gay. therefor no gay people have been executed but they have executed people based on homosexual acts. hmmm? something odd with that?
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@Digdigs2 That is a pretty bold statement. I want you to open the beginning of any book on the 'Practical Laws of Islam' written by our scholars. The first point mentioned is the fundamental beliefs of religion must be established based on logic and reasoning. That is, Islam calls upon mankind to follow religion through the use of intellect. I understand you have had bad experiences with religion.
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@ditrapped Known to be is one thing and is; is another thing all together. In Iran nobody in it's history has been executed as a result of these things. In regards to blasphemy laws; Islam has always been and is an ardent supporter of freedom of dialogue. Yet, before responding to your claim, I ask you, in most places in Europe, what would be the punishment met toward someone who denies the holocaust? Better yet, if he draws a degrading cartoon regarding the holocaust?
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@Digdigs2 Why compare a 2000 year history to a 20 or 30 year history? I thought you could think a little more outside the box, particularly, when looking at it in terms of changing laws and norms over that period.
Digdigs2, Religion has been abused, but then again, what hasn't been abused?
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@Justiceinaustralia BTW - my original discussion was not that religions are intolerant, but that no one religion was more or less intolerant... but whatever, since you bring it up - religions are intolerant beccause they have at their core a set of unprovable/unquantifiable foundational beliefs which cannot be discussed or compromised on - unlike most other movements.
@jeaniehopkirk2 The regularity of their protests is not so much the issue. Operating on the premise that what they believe is far more important and has far more intrinsic value than the bulk of the population is their most pernicious quality.
MrStrictlyStock 1 year ago 4
@Digdigs2 Surely you don't believe that nonsense you said that islam is no more violent nor intolerant than Christianity or Judaism? Have you read anything at all regarding current events the past half century?
Who determines what is or is not included within the term "human rights"?
Who decided "human rights" are inalienable?
MrStrictlyStock 1 year ago 4