What's the meaning of Freewill? www.rameshbalsekar.com

From "The Kovalam Happening", A beautiful 2 hour DVD that is really worth owning because It lays out in such a clear way Ramesh's teaching of non-doership. Also very practical because he explains in a simple way how to flawlessly apply it to your life, and what will happen if you do. He de-mysifies everything.

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[KrfNYC2]

@trakomako Oh.

[KrfNYC2]

@trakomako Sounds like Daosim (Taoism). Are you familiar?

[KrfNYC2]

@trakomako I meant no offense. I think that discussing the mysteries of the universe can be very interesting and stimulated...but I have come to a point where I've grown weary of the round about arguments. I try to be simple minded (not meaning ignorant but instead at peace).

[KrfNYC2]

@trakomako I think that some of these very intricate philisophical questins are not to be bothered with. I just try to be happy. Mainyl by saying, "fuck it."

[KrfNYC2]

@trakomako Interesting.

[KrfNYC2]

@prajna8 That makes sense. I often struggle with the ego and cannot bring myself to believe that it is all there is. The ego seems to be the source of all sadness. But who knows for sure?

[prajna8]

@KrfNYC2 Your Being/Self is not separate from the pure Being/SELF of the murderer or a Sage. Only the mind divides and separates or imagines duality when there is actually none. The waking state is no different from the dream state while asleep. Both these states are in the mind and are mental creations and have no reality. They owe their existence to non enquiry. Enquiry puts an end to their imagined reality. Mind turned inward is pure Being, turned ouward makes the world appear to the mind.

[prajna8]

@KrfNYC2 Yes. Your mind/ego/body is not your true Self. Your being is your true Self. First U have to BE present for the body/mind to arise. That awareness/ being is what UR. Being is ignored because of the body/mind in the waking and dream states. But in deep sleep even though U R not aware of Being you enjoy its bliss which is not enjoyed during awake/dreaming. When you say I and me that refers to the ego/thought/body and not your Being. Being is pure awareness without the mind/ thoughts.

[jwklbm326]

As the nature of the doer is revealed or perceived in the person, such ideas as killing wouldn't arise. The nature is Love. The more one opens up to become as the creator, the more one becomes like the creator. Such conflict wouldn't arise.

[KrfNYC2]

@prajna8 Oh, I think I udnerstand. Basically you are saying that since we do not control anything in our waking states, than who(or what)ever is in control is our true selves...is that correct? And I don't believe in ethically right or worng, but I do believe in fortunate and unfortunate. If someone murders an entire innocent family, I won't say that the murderer has done somethinig immoral, but I will say that an unfortunate action has took place and it saddens me.