Nastia Liukin 2005 Worlds EF

She got silver

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• floor

[annaponork]

Wow, I love this routine the most. I think it's more elegant than her current floor routine now.

[AmylMary]

I think her 08 music suits her better though, gives her more room to be graceful.

[liljayyo1]

I miss this Nastia I mean like she was sooo elegant back then I mean she still is but this was the golden age of Nastia!!

[FlicTuckFull]

@willsbob123

Body type means nothing when it comes to basic technique such as setting and THEN twisting on a triple twist. It doesn't matter what your body type is, that is what you have to do.

You can SEE when she lands that she does it, so I mean, ignore it if you want but it's there, especially on her front 2.5.

Being trained in ballet doesn't change the technique you're suppose to use on tumbling so ...

[willsbob123]

@FlicTuckFull Because that's how she's been trained balletically. And body types mean nothing? Are you kidding me? Look at Asacs legs compared to Nastia's, and her frame - she's more broad, Nastia is basically a twig here. I do admit, she does pull of the floor, but it doesn't mean that she does this '90 degree' thing with her feet when she lands, it's just rubbish.

[FlicTuckFull]

@willsbob123

Body style means nothing. Alicia sets up and then pulls, where as Nastia pulls right off the floor.

Pause the second she hits the ground, especially on the front 2.5. Her feet are not completely square to the corner. And the "dancing out of it by turning her ankles" makes no logical sense. Dancing out of a tumble, I get, but why would someone land with their ankles turned to make it look dancier?

[willsbob123]

@FlicTuckFull No, that is rubbish. Asac has a completely different body type to Nastia, more power - when she does a triple twist its huge, and high and rolls and is ofc completed, just because Nastia's isn't as high doesn't mean she doesn't complete it. When she lands she dances out of her tumbles - so after the triple she throws he arms up and her feet turn out, it's how she's been trained dance wise, so the point you'e trying to make about the triple and 2.5 twist is rubbish and untrue.

[FlicTuckFull]

@willsbob123

Look at her feet - both are not pointing square to the corner she started in. Yes, the triple clearly would have counted, but she never truly completed it.

Actually any larger twisting that involved Nastia landing facing back to the corner she started in was always short. Her 2.5 here isn't fully completed either, one ankle is 90 degrees from the starting corner.

Look at Asac's triple. She lands with more of her ankles point square to the corner she began at.

[willsbob123]

@FlicTuckFull That's quite hilarious, you can blatanly see she completes the triple twist here, and in other routines in 2005. She could 3.5 twist so I don't know what you're taking. If she wouldn't have been credited with the value of her triple in this routine, the s.v would have gone from 9.900, to something lower.

[FlicTuckFull]

@willsbob123

Perhaps. Who's to say? But seeing as she'd have to do it from a round-off alone, and the fact that the girl never TRULY completed it even in 2005 WITH a BHS, I think common sense is leading me towards my opinion.

[willsbob123]

@FlicTuckFull Actually you're correct with your the point about the physical/mental side. However, I'm not saying a gymnast who has retired 10 years ago could do their hardest tumble now, a triple twist for Nastia isn't her hardest tumble, you ask her to do a hsp double front now and no she wouldn't be able to do it, but I'm not talking about her doing her hard skills now, but in 2008, and the fact that she would be able to triple twist then.

[FlicTuckFull]

@willsbob123

What? You don't lose the ability physically, but mentally? That's saying that an elite gymnast who retired, lets say 8 years ago could come back and pull the hardest skill now that they could then?

No, it doesn't work that way. If anything it is the reverse - a gymnast's body can mentally remember how to perform the skill, but physically their body can't do it.