John Corigliano - Symphony No. 2 - 1

John Corigliano - Symphony No. 2 - 1
Novosibirsk Philharmonic Chamber Orchestra conducted by Alim Shakh

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[AfroDeezeeYak]

Excuse me: "composition for 4 instruments"*

[PhilharmoniaNSK]

@AfroDeezeeYak

Yes, this is about quartet version. But later Corigliano revised this work.

[RogueRotting360]

@KhagarBalugrak As a last note, I'd like to add that I'm not a big fan of the piece. I find it derivative, monotonous and a pain to listen to. It's the kind of stuff that gives atonal music a bad name.

However, I also recognise that John Corgliano has produced finer works than this both, both atonal and tonal, film scores included, and in no way does this speak for all atonal music. In the end, there's simply good and bad music, regardless of what idiom it was composed in.

[RogueRotting360]

@KhagarBalugrak You clearly have got huge chip on your shoulder, and are construing my arguments, so I can conveniently fit your imperialist, colonial, white superstate, evil, straw man. I am none of those things, but I'm not going get unnecessarily worked up about it.

What I intend to do right now is have dinner. While eating, I'll switch on some evil atonal music, while my white supremacist brain shrinks, hopefully at the same tempo as the music.

[RogueRotting360]

@KhagarBalugrak "You tell me: is this racist? Is this narcissistic and arrogant? Of course it is, and it's EVIL"

You're fighting a straw man here. Apparently I'm EVIL for making the claim that tonal Asian classical and folk music is generally less dissonant, or at least less dissonant for such prolonged periods as atonal music. That is absurd.

[RogueRotting360]

@KhagarBalugrak I have never equated opposing or censoring atonal music with the Shoah, for crying out loud. You are the one who's drawing substituting state censorship with state murder.

[RogueRotting360]

@KhagarBalugrak You're making a number of suppositions here, or willfully misreading my posts. I was drawing a comparison between the kind of mentality you're espousing - contempt for atonal music and rock and roll, and the suggestion that it should be prohibited is akin to the restrictions imposed by totalitarian regimes on modern art. The Nazi analogy ends there.

Not for one second do I think you're a mass murderer, or anything other than a peaceful, liberal-minded guy.

[RogueRotting360]

@KhagarBalugrak I admit the killing analogy was hyperbole on my part, and quite frankly tasteless. I apologise.

However, if hypothetically you were to somehow come to power, I'd imagine atonal music would be banned from concert halls or wherever else. In your own words:

"And discord, whether atonal music or rock and roll, damages living things, and therefore should not be played, analyzed or written."

That is a terrifying prospect.

[RogueRotting360]

@KhagarBalugrak I did not say you're a Nazi. You're putting words into my mouth. I simply made a comparison to the the Third Reich's labeling and treatment of so called entartete Kunst - "degenerate art." Anything atonal, jazz influenced or simply "modern" was banned, full stop. Performance, criticism, or simply playing on a record. Their reasoning was different - they believed it was Bolshevik plot and un-German, as opposed to harmful on the brain, but the banishment applies.

[RogueRotting360]

@KhagarBalugrak I have no contempt whatsoever for the music of the Far East whatsoever. Toru Takemtisu is one of my favourite composers, and I spend a lot of time listening to traditional Gamelan music, Kabuki music, Indian classical and a host of other traditional forms from the East.

When I said it was "easy on the ears", I did not mean to patronise it. Merely state the obvious - traditional Far Eastern is generally more consonant than atonal music, Western or otherwise.