Joint Struggle

More from Uri Gordon. An excerpt from his talk on the joint struggle of Israelis and Palestinians. Anarchists Against the Wall is an Israeli action group supporting the Palestinian struggle in the West Bank. Join Uri Gordon for a presentation on the achievements and limitations of this joint effort, and for anarchist perspectives on Palestinian national liberation. Gordon is the author of Anarchy Alive! Anti-authoritarian Politics from Practice to Theory. The entire presentation can be found on Archive.org http://www.vimeo.com/6804617 http://www.archive.org/details/AnarchistsAgainstTheWallWithUriGordon

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[theracemixer]

1 week still no video

[Irtidad]

Yes and I intend to follow through on it. Patience.

[theracemixer]

well you made the comment not me/us

[Irtidad]

Believe it or not, I actually have a life outside of YouTube. Don't get too anxious, I know you're really interested in what I have to say (maybe).

[theracemixer]

Irtidad

so much for the video you said will make

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The Ottoman Empire neglected the Land of Israel, which was for them a remote periphery. Most of the inhabitants were Jews and Christians who populated the major cities, which, in themselves were sparse and backward, revolving around pilgrims to the holy sites. Beyond the cities were Bedouin nomads for whom the land was a passage between Egypt and Arabia. Maps and data of Israel's population at the time, recorded by the Pope's emissaries, fill the Vatican archives and attest to this.

[ravdov571]

We have only to look at the past 150 years in order to learn that those people who call themselves "Palestinians" have been new settlers in the Land of Israel. In order to have a reliable picture of Israel's settlement map one needs to look at all the waves of settlement, and not only those of the Jews. In order to properly discuss the issue of Israel's demography, one must be knowledgeable about the Arab settlement process in the context of modern history.

[ravdov571]

Historical evidence tells us another story. Historically, the Jewish and Arab settlement in Israel neither began in 1882 nor in 1948. To establish my argument, I will not resort to referring back in time to the Byzantine period and the time of the Khalif Omar, the periods in which most of the dwellers in Israel were Jews.

[ravdov571]

Arab propaganda has long extolled the fact that in 1948, the year of the State of Israel's independence and the year of the Nakba (Arabic for 'catastrophe') for them, there were three quarter Arabs and one third Jews in the expanse between the Jordan and the sea. In keeping with this polemic they always only emphasize the aliyah of Jews to Israel. According to the Arabs who adhere to this agenda, they have lived here since time immemorial and are only naturally increasing in population.

[ravdov571]

That is not to say there were no individuals or even large groups of thousands of Jews who previously settled in Israel. In 1740, for instance, tens of thousands of Hassidim settled in Hebron, Jerusalem, Safed, and Tiberia. There was also an aliyah from Yemin and Spain. Jews have always been making aliyah to Israel, even often endangering their lives. Despite this, until the beginning of WWI in 1914, 80% of Jerusalem's population was Jewish.