Top-Down Theology

This clip is taken from the sermon "Mary's Song," preached by Pastor Mark Driscoll at the Mars Hill Church Ballard campus in Seattle, Washington, on October 25, 2009. It is the 5th sermon in our sermon series, "Luke's Gospel: Investigating the Man Who Is God."

To watch the full sermon, visit: http://www.marshillchurch.org/media/luke/marys-song

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[Redington931]

@Richy15251 Ultimately people believe in doing whatever they feel/wish to do; despite saying they believe in things that may be selfless. It's inconsistent but it's no surprise when people's believes are confused.

[Richy15251]

@Redington931 I'm not quite sure what you mean by "people's religion in the self". I actually care what's true rather than accepting an idea for emotional reasons. I don't reject Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Judaism etc... because I want to "believe in myself", I don't believe in them because there is no evidence for any of them aside from anecdotes and emotional testimony.

[Redington931]

@Richy15251 It may not be a religion in and of itself but it certainly can help bolster people's religion in the self. Though, it's not atheism that is the sole enabler of that. It's basically any ideology that gets the person to feel justified in themselves by themselves; and who are you to question that, right? There has to be other motives involved than just having a philosophical debate because ultimately it deals with more than just beliefs.

[dyin2live83]

@Brightstar27 I have a lot of love and respect for what I've seen of this guys ministry but I do think some of his definitions in the earlier part of this short segment of teaching was inaccurate.

[Brightstar27]

Open Theism has nothing to do with God's omnipotence; it has to do with the nature of time. Driscoll misrepresented it.

[TheThawek]

Just want to say I consider Pastor Mark Driscoll my pastor. He preaches only from the bible and not his thoughts. Most Pastor preach from their own ways. TK- All the way from Kansas.

[steffanielyn]

@Richy15251 @Richy15251 I respect your point of view. We all are different after all. But this is what I chose, and this is what I believe in. To express why I believe this would be a waste of time. One thing I learned in life, if you are having a conversation with others see what is their point of view or world view.

If they have taken a side, there is no point explaining further as everything that you will say will just be a dust. So at the end of the day, let's just agree to disagree.

[Richy15251]

@steffanielyn This is a common straw-man fallacy that christians love to employ; to claim that atheism is itself a religion.

Is not believing in leprechauns a religion? The answer is no, it is up to the one with the positive claim to provide evidence that that their assertion is valid. A claim provided without evidence can be disregarded with without evidence. I think we'd all agree that there are no fairies even though there is no evidence that there are in fact, no fairies.

[steffanielyn]

@Richy15251 hi richy, I hope that may you find it in your heart to look for answers in an open mind. People criticize religion thinking it is just defined as Christianity, Muslim, Buddism, Hinduism and the list goes on.. But little do they realize that Atheism is also a religion. You chose not to believe in anything, your religion is disbelief.

I know some Christians are really off in to criticizing others and I apologize on their behalf . But I hope that you seek for the truth. :)

[Richy15251]

@the13thof12 you want to tell me why I'm ignorant? why your religion is right and every other one is wrong while they're all based on zero evidence?