Sola Fide (FAITH ALONE) & Perseverance of the Saints.

Salvation is through faith alone by God's grace alone. The Elect (the saints) WILL persevere. One who has truely been regenerated cannot become 'unregenerate', one who has been born again cannot become 'unborn'. Those who fall away NEVER knew Him.
Salvation is not through works (lest any man should boast) and we are not kept by works. Works are produced by a saving faith. Saving faith is the gift of God.


Before I get accused of teaching works to sola fide by my use of "REPENT" let me clarify:
Salvation IS by faith alone. But faith produces repentance and you can't have one without the other.
Also: works are a result of Salvation, NOT the cause. Works are what what comes from a living faith, faith without works is dead. A dead faith is no faith at all, isn't it?

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I'm dealing with that among other things, and this entire thing is time consuming so at the moment I see no further reason to go around in theological circles repeating ourselves...I don't feel as though it would be edifying to continue, unless you have specific questions...

God bless.

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also because I really am doing a horrible job of keeping up with this at the moment. Unfortunately, my grandmother was just diagnosed with stage 3 cancer in her lymph nodes, spine and lungs and we're waiting to see if it's spread to her brain before we know if there is any hope of treatments. She is sick....

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@IamNOTlikeUnymore anyways, I've said all I know to say to you...I'm holding on to the truths of God's word, and I pray you will also see them. At this point I think it's best that we agree to disagree, because there is nothing more to say that hasn't been said and ....

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We're not good because of our sin...a sinner cannot randomly decide to be righteous (Jer. 13:3). It is IMPOSSIBLE for us to save ourselves...it's all God's work all for God's glory.You're basically arguing that we have merit outside of God...we do not all by our lonesome do ANYTHING (including making a 'choice' for Christ) that God rewards us for Salvation for.

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@IamNOTlikeUnymore Again, to natural man scripture is foolishness and thus we wouldn't even look to the Scriptures unless God had his hand in our doing so...we turn our eyes to the cross because He first loved us...not because we in our own goodness decided to do the right thing and do Jesus the favor of coming to Him.

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@IamNOTlikeUnymore no, a spiritually dead man cannot understand the things of God...they are foolish to him.

You're believing in a Jesus who needs your help, and cooperation. Sorry, but Jesus can keep you. Do you think Jesus died so that we would fall away? Nope.

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@IamNOTlikeUnymore the point still remains: if man is spiritually dead, he is DEAD. A spirtually dead man can raise himself up as well as a physically dead man can.

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@IamNOTlikeUnymore tradition of men? there is no tradition of men. It's scripture and scripture alone. I'm not a Calvinist based on what man, or what any man did. I'm not a Calvinist because of John Calvin...I'm Reformed because that is the clear teaching of Scripture. Seeing as how I became a Calvinist through reading no writings of men but only the Bible and trying to argue against that and didn't read the reformers and become edified by it until AFTER I was a convinced Calvinist....