Van Halen And The Cradle Will Rock solo 1 dissection

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[VioletDeliriums]

Can you do the noise at the beginning? I would accept a fake solo more than a version without that noise. It seems to be one of his most guarded secrets -- he BSes in interviews about it and in a lot of live performances on YouTube have the lights go out at that point. I am not a Van Halen fan, but I am doing research on him, and what I find more interesting are the noises he makes than the "notes." One transcription says pick scrapes, Eddie says on the organ by bashing the keys. Do you know?

[DougFCKNSteele]

@VioletDeliriums I honestly think it's done with keyboards, there's definitely flanger on it. I would have no idea how tyou'd get that sound on guitar, the thing that would come close is what Ed does on Atomic punk, but it wouldn't be right.

[rbeuck]

@DougFCKNSteele Well, unbelievably to me, I found it ... Guitar World

Presents Guitar Legends - ( display until April 20, 1992 ). PAGE 31 Eddie

says he used an old Wurlitzer electric piano that he pumped through his

Marshall amps and , yes, he used an MXR Flanger.

[DougFCKNSteele]

@rbeuck I'd still like to know how he does it, like, how's he bangin' the keys?

[rbeuck]

@DougFCKNSteele Yeah Doug. According to what I have here it reads

" I just banged on the lower part of the keyboard - no notes, just a cluster

and switched on my MXR Flanger " Gleen from that what you will. Hey

man I just love your video clips - you have one helluva mastery. I never

learned much on the guitar. you inspire me to try again. ROCK ON

[DougFCKNSteele]

@rbeuck Wow!!!

[VioletDeliriums]

@rbeuck I have that book actually, but thanks for the offer. I don't believe Eddie on that -- I think at that point in his career he was lying about a lot of stuff and I think he was trying to mislead people with that Wurlitzer comment. I appreciate the help though!

[rbeuck]

@VioletDeliriums Hey Violet ... if you like I can scan the page and email it to you.

and the mag cover too so that maybe you can find a copy on the web.

Guitar World Presents Guitar Legends - The Complete Van Halen ( 1992)

[rbeuck]

@DougFCKNSteele According to an interview w/ Eddie a good number of years

ago that sound is indeed a keyboard ... w/ at least one bad transistor. I do not recall

as to whether or not a flange was added although I always swore it sounded like

flanger to me. If I find the mag. w/ the interview I will let you know ... I may not have it anymore

[VioletDeliriums]

@DougFCKNSteele That's what EVH says too, but you know how he used to BS so much back then. I think it might be pick scrapes with the phase 90 set about 10 oclock, similar to Atomic Punk. I think he likes to confuse people -- especially when he was younger. This revival in Van Halen I see is really fascinating. To learn this stuff in the 80s was a lot harder because there was no YouTube. But that might have actually helped guitarists actually listen and groove more than worry about technique.