Donna Lieberman Executive Director of the NYCLU speaks during a vigil honoring the late Dr. George Tiller. She notes Dr. Tiller's courage, strength, and heroism to perform late term abortions in one of the most conservative parts of the country.
Not sure what you're referring to there, but I'm proud to volunteer with and support Planned Parenthood.
FYI, abortions make up only 3% of Planned Parenthood's services. PP offers low cost birth control, low cost maternal care, screening for breast, cervical and testicular cancers; pregnancy testing and pregnancy options counseling, testing and treatment for std's, comprehensive sex education, menopause treatments, vasectomies and tubal ligations.
Pretend its "selfish" if you wish. But the truth is a healthy pregnancy doesn't mean its all good and happy. Issues such as finances, having too many children you're struggling to care for, an abusive relationship, rape or incest - thats only the tip of the iceberg.
But apparently its beyond your ability to understand.
I didn't downplay anything. I explained my point of view focusing on the facts rather than an emotional rampage. I framed Dr. Tiller's murder the same way in this discussion. But it looks like you have your tunnel vision on again...
I never mentioned Bill O'Rielly, not sure where you got that. I did mention Fox news and questioned why this wasn't a main story for them but I guess that went right through your head.
Holy shit, you ppl are STILL arguing over this? Why continue when it's obvious that the opposing side will not change their stance. Why not instead recognise that instead of spamming this board that if ppl weren't so stupid to get knocked up in the first place, then there would be no need for abortion. Nobody would complain about having thier rights taken away and nobody would scream baby killer.
@loner1878 The Boy Scout ritual is respectful and time honored, and not just to look cool in fron of your friends, or piss all over the country because you can't have your way.
Again, don't conflate quiet and respectful ceremony for the symbol of our nation, as an excuse to destroy it in the name of Free Speech. The two don't compare.
@loner1878 Hey, YOU chose to work with Planned Parenthood, not me.
You knew what you were getting into. Don't conflate my defense of normal healthy babies who have NO reason for termination, with ANY kind of insensitvity towards disabled children. LOL at that.
Crack babies? Use drugs, run the risk. You know what you're getting into. Shouldn't bother you Planned Parenthood guys, since it keeps you in business anyway. Have fun....
@Shawnster65
Go whine to the courts. They interpret the constitution, not me.
loner1878 1 year ago
@Shawnster65
Not sure what you're referring to there, but I'm proud to volunteer with and support Planned Parenthood.
FYI, abortions make up only 3% of Planned Parenthood's services. PP offers low cost birth control, low cost maternal care, screening for breast, cervical and testicular cancers; pregnancy testing and pregnancy options counseling, testing and treatment for std's, comprehensive sex education, menopause treatments, vasectomies and tubal ligations.
loner1878 1 year ago
@Shawnster65
Pretend its "selfish" if you wish. But the truth is a healthy pregnancy doesn't mean its all good and happy. Issues such as finances, having too many children you're struggling to care for, an abusive relationship, rape or incest - thats only the tip of the iceberg.
But apparently its beyond your ability to understand.
loner1878 1 year ago
@Shawnster65
I didn't downplay anything. I explained my point of view focusing on the facts rather than an emotional rampage. I framed Dr. Tiller's murder the same way in this discussion. But it looks like you have your tunnel vision on again...
I never mentioned Bill O'Rielly, not sure where you got that. I did mention Fox news and questioned why this wasn't a main story for them but I guess that went right through your head.
loner1878 1 year ago
A good condom + birth control = NO BABY! :D
But of course understanding that could be a problem for many Americans.
happytreefiend3 1 year ago
Holy shit, you ppl are STILL arguing over this? Why continue when it's obvious that the opposing side will not change their stance. Why not instead recognise that instead of spamming this board that if ppl weren't so stupid to get knocked up in the first place, then there would be no need for abortion. Nobody would complain about having thier rights taken away and nobody would scream baby killer.
happytreefiend3 1 year ago
@loner1878 The Boy Scout ritual is respectful and time honored, and not just to look cool in fron of your friends, or piss all over the country because you can't have your way.
Again, don't conflate quiet and respectful ceremony for the symbol of our nation, as an excuse to destroy it in the name of Free Speech. The two don't compare.
So as you say, have a nice day.
Shawnster65 1 year ago
@loner1878 Hey, YOU chose to work with Planned Parenthood, not me.
You knew what you were getting into. Don't conflate my defense of normal healthy babies who have NO reason for termination, with ANY kind of insensitvity towards disabled children. LOL at that.
Crack babies? Use drugs, run the risk. You know what you're getting into. Shouldn't bother you Planned Parenthood guys, since it keeps you in business anyway. Have fun....
Shawnster65 1 year ago
@loner1878 Cop out? You downplay the killing of Jim Pouillon, (or any Pro-Lifer)
with "terrorism" as YOUR cop out to elevate Dr Tiller to priority status and make Pouillon obsolete. Nice excuse..
You blame Bill O' Reilly for Dr. Tiller instead of seeing it as an act of an
individual. Another copout..I thought liberals preached individual accountability
The women who use abortion to terminate NORMAL, healthy pregnancies for their own selfish reasons. And you call ME a cop out.
Shawnster65 1 year ago
@Shawnster65
Way to cop out of a real argument, dude. I'll miss the laughs.
loner1878 1 year ago