Legendary moro warrior Telesporo Subingsubing capture in this rare clip demonstrating his double stick, multiple attackers and some dumog. Shot in Hawaii circa 50's-60's? (Unverified)
@okami6 Yes, I am GM Subingsubing's granddaughter and I had the pleasure of training with GM LaCoste and he knew of my grandfather. He told me my grandfather was know as the "fly" and that he fought many deadly battles against the moros.
this is awesome, i haven't seen this kind on stance and foot work. the flow is so fluid and very lethal. i notice he use a long stick, when he fights on single hand, it is like he is using a real blade. more on slicing and blocking than swinging it. "madamo gd nga salamat" for the post.
I don't know the history of his style, bu the term moro-moro was used for a kind of morality play popular in the Visayas during Spanish occupation, which frequently featured battles of good (usually Christian) vs. bad (often depicted as Moros, hence the name of the plays). Regarding the footwork, Sonny Umpad used a lot of similar low stances, and there are some similarities in the doblecada as well. I believe Sonny met Subingsubing, and he too used the term moro-moro for the footwork.
He's not Moro. He's Cebuan. I come from the Southern Philippines and practice the art. This is not difinitely Moro. Moros have difinitely different way of using their blades from the Visayans. I saw a very much identical style used by a man of Ilongo (Ilo-ilo, Central Visayas) heritage from South Central Mindanao and his reason for such a kind of stance is that you are giving your enemy only half of a target and you can spring at him from a kneeling position.
GM Subingsubing was the grandfather of one of my teachers, Tanya Subingsubing/Lucaylucay during most of the 1980's. The setting of the film, as told to me by the late Batikan Raymond Tobaosa, another teacher, was a charcoal factory in Hawaii where GM worked. Although GM was Cebuano/Visayan, his style was Moro-Moro. What you see in the film is an example of the "Fly" or "Wrong Way" style derived from the southern Philippines. GM was reputed to have survived mass combat with Moro warriors.
My Granpa in my mother side is Subingsubing Emilio from Cebu
elgaro1000 2 weeks ago
Can someone tell me who has this video and would it be possible to get a copy. I am his granddaughter and I too am in the arts.
monroesubingsubing 1 month ago
@chapjai I am a Guro and a descendant of GM Subingsubing but most of my knowledge of the arts came from other sources.
monroesubingsubing 1 month ago
@okami6 Yes, I am GM Subingsubing's granddaughter and I had the pleasure of training with GM LaCoste and he knew of my grandfather. He told me my grandfather was know as the "fly" and that he fought many deadly battles against the moros.
monroesubingsubing 1 month ago
this is awesome, i haven't seen this kind on stance and foot work. the flow is so fluid and very lethal. i notice he use a long stick, when he fights on single hand, it is like he is using a real blade. more on slicing and blocking than swinging it. "madamo gd nga salamat" for the post.
pagakpak 3 months ago
@defondo Tanya is my Aunt
anaddi15 7 months ago
I don't know the history of his style, bu the term moro-moro was used for a kind of morality play popular in the Visayas during Spanish occupation, which frequently featured battles of good (usually Christian) vs. bad (often depicted as Moros, hence the name of the plays). Regarding the footwork, Sonny Umpad used a lot of similar low stances, and there are some similarities in the doblecada as well. I believe Sonny met Subingsubing, and he too used the term moro-moro for the footwork.
stickman33 7 months ago
He's not Moro. He's Cebuan. I come from the Southern Philippines and practice the art. This is not difinitely Moro. Moros have difinitely different way of using their blades from the Visayans. I saw a very much identical style used by a man of Ilongo (Ilo-ilo, Central Visayas) heritage from South Central Mindanao and his reason for such a kind of stance is that you are giving your enemy only half of a target and you can spring at him from a kneeling position.
Aldatsky 7 months ago
It must be corrected that the person here is not a moro. Moro is a term used for muslim warriors from the south of the Philippines. Thanks
amci06042 7 months ago
GM Subingsubing was the grandfather of one of my teachers, Tanya Subingsubing/Lucaylucay during most of the 1980's. The setting of the film, as told to me by the late Batikan Raymond Tobaosa, another teacher, was a charcoal factory in Hawaii where GM worked. Although GM was Cebuano/Visayan, his style was Moro-Moro. What you see in the film is an example of the "Fly" or "Wrong Way" style derived from the southern Philippines. GM was reputed to have survived mass combat with Moro warriors.
defondo 9 months ago