Race Denier Prescribes Early Death for Black Heart Patients

Race can be used to help identify susceptibility to or improve treatment for life-threatening diseases only if race exists biologically.

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[LibertarianRealist]

@socrates856 You affirm race by even mentioning "south indian people." You know that they can be differentiated from black African people (by hair, soft tissue traits, skull shape, DNA analysis, etc.) even if they both have dark skin. You're merely engaging in semantics over labels, not refuting the existence of human populations with distinct SETS of heritable characteristics.

[LibertarianRealist]

@socrates856 Black skin color is a distinctive racial trait, since only certain subgroups of humans exhibit it. That observation would still be valid if there were 6 billion mulattoes of varying shades and only a handful of pure blacks and pure whites left in the world. Race would still be a meaningful category as long as distinct heritable traits exist in some populations.

[SmippeHyrst]

@socrates856 "why does this NOT mean that north-germans and south-germans are different "races"?" They could be, but it would not helpful to the classification of different human groups to ascribe the same ethnic divide between (for instance) scandanavians and the Irish as between mongoloids and negroids. A sub-racial divide would be more appropriate, like the difference between the congoid and bushmen negroid groups .

[SmippeHyrst]

@socrates856 Like I've said - animals and plants do not come with labels providing clear lines of distinction - and that often includes species divide. You have to take account of both morphological and genetic differences to draw dividing lines. Whilst I'm not a scientist, I do read that such dividing lines exist significant enough to amount to a sub-species divide, something you seem to reject out of hand.

[SmippeHyrst]

@socrates856 There is height variation within all races. There are also significant average height differences between races, like the difference between the Chinese and the Dutch. But by your reasoning, such an average difference cannot qualify as one of a number of traits contributing towards a general sub-species divide. You presumably would argue that so long as such traits are variable within all groups, average differences between groups (however substantial) never apply in taxonomy.

[anywayokey]

@socrates856 - Just out of curiosity do you believe that there are different breeds of dogs or is that a dog social construct?

[socrates856]

@SmippeHyrst And take your paper, why does this NOT mean that north-germans and south-germans are different "races"? That is precisely what I have been asking and people are failing to provide. People point at difference and give vague principles, but they apply in ways that don't fit what they clearly want to be the case. You and close family members can be genetically differentiated. Does that mean your family has multiple races?