Re: Atheism - a Mental Disease?

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[arscott82]

I agree 100% about religion not being healthy for children. The child should be able to grow up and make his own decisions and have his own thoughts towards life. I have a 7 month old and I'm atheist and my wife is religious. All children should be old enough to know what everything means before they decide what they believe in.

[JstNEarthling]

@arscott82 So, your wife's religious and you're an atheist, I assume , to your wife anyway, you are appeasing her about religion to get along? I'm a militant radical type of human without myth to drive me, just logic and common sense. I find it my duty to ridicule the ridiculous so I was just wondering what you were going to do about your child going to church when your wife does?

[arscott82]

@JstNEarthling While my boy is still a baby, my wife can take it. Probably going to take him for a little while. But her being religious dose not mean that she goes to church every week. She only goes a hand full of times per year. So by the time he is say 5, he will have only attended church probably less than 20 times. I'm alright with this because, it will show him one side of the story. When he gets a little older, I plan on introducing him to books like Cosmos by Carl Sagan.

[JstNEarthling]

@arscott82 The only problem with that appeasement plan is that you know god and the religion crap is false and very threatening to a lot of people with hellfire and all that punishment their god seems to hand out wily nilly....You know, like the jerk on the pulpit screaming about the devil and demons gonna burn forever...I was lucky as I had a say in the way my kids were raised and now my son has asked me to help guide my grandson...it's true some of the zealots pick on children

[JstNEarthling]

@arscott82 See that's where there seems to be a lot of miss communication concerning there being any sides at all to any story. For one thing atheism is not a side of the story it is the whole story, that's the problem, a lot of people look at atheism as if it were a religion too, which is the farthest from the truth and you know it.

So, maybe you need to clean up that part of your ideal, that there are any sides...

[arscott82]

@JstNEarthling That way, he gets both sides of the story and will be able to choose for himself.

[JstNEarthling]

@arscott82 That's the best choice now a days as long as religion and deity worship are explained in a reasonable manner and not assumed to be true. For instance there are those who say they are agnostic, even atheist yet say Jesus existed but in a different state......I don't think so while to me jesus was an imaginary person cobbled together by usurping Hebrews, the watchmakers.

[Thumprsbro]

A church is, simply put, an asylum were everyone wears black instead of white.

[pathos6296]

exactly

[vaahtobileet]

@roflzi Huge masses of people (entire countries) have believed in all kinds of gods all the time. Because Romans converted to Christianity, it proves that it's true? Great logic there. Why Jesus of all the messiahs you could choose from? What makes Christianity so special that I should believe in it out of the thousands of other religions? There are written records and "proof" of other religions too.

You must know how irrational you are.

[roflzi]

@vaahtobileet yes you can but you cant write smart things like they did and you cant have roman historians mention you and you cant have whole countries and even romans which were polytheists believe in you suddenly just because of a book and have it spread even before the book exist because there were witnesses and because romans were not fools

[vaahtobileet]

@roflzi I can write a book about a guy "doing miracles for several years while traveling in a country" right now. It doesn't make it true. How do you know God exists? Personal faith is ok, but there is simply nothing rational about believing these outlandish things. You can't prove God's existence with logic, but you can believe in those things.

It baffles me how religious people almost never acknowledge that they know how irrational their beliefs are. Surely they must know?

[roflzi]

@JstNEarthling if you had so much logic you d know that no one can fake doing miracles for several years while traveling in a country so the fact -for people with brains- that the universe obviously didnt made itself + what jesus made and said, you d know you are pretty much screwing with what is true, which is sad especially for an old man which is no longer so far of its death

moreover for a man of logic you waste way too much your life on a website