Finding God through Faith and Reason - St. Thomas Aquinas' Proof of an Uncaused Cause Part 2

In the history of life in the universe, Fr. Spitzer distinguishes between two forms of beings: the Caused Causes, which rely on something else in order to exist; and the Uncaused Cause, or that which needs nothing other than itself to exist. Going back into the past and positing an infinite number of caused causes gets us nowhere in determining ultimate causality.

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[Mkvine]

@sxs0nar

which premise is not true?

[tracygonecrazy1]

Wow, I've almost never heard anyone actual get what Aqunias mean't by 'ens' / being before. But you got it right. Cudos !

[Shadowfractureflame]

Grand yes, non-finite, no. If you're not careful you'll tear apart your otherwise very good argument.

[Shadowfractureflame]

Two problems. One, you've already defined infinite as that which cannot me achieved, so therefore an infinite power is unachievable. Secondly, the first cause doesn't have to be infinite. There is a finite amount af materials within the known universe, with a finite number of forms. So the uncaused cause can, and does have boundaries: it only has to be as powerful as to create all the finite matter of the universe, and only as versatile as all the finite types of energy in the universe.