Liverpool Overhead Railway / Messerschmitt Attack.

This is a short test for the Messerchmitt scene, which is an actual re-enactment of a real event, told in one of our interviews by an eyewitness for our documentary film about the Liverpool Overhead Railway.

The actual scene will include real actors filmed infront of a bluescreen (which has already been shot), including a real horse and cart, and will be made up of 5 or 6 shots so the sequence will be a lot longer than this.

I will be getting rid of the CGI characters altogether, as they are bugging me.

The music if from 'Call of Duty 2'. The best of the series, in my opinion ;)

Category:

Film & Animation

Tags:

• Liverpool Overhead Railway
• Dockers Umbrella
• CGI
• 3D Animation
• World War 2
• Film
• Messerschmitt
• History

[jukkaokauppinen]

Well. Nice video but historically incorrect. Me 109s did not operate that far inland during Battle of Britain. The event is made up or the location is remembered incorrctly. Liverpool was targeted by night bombers, that were not escorted. If this sort of event ever took place, it would be documented by local historicians or aviation enthusiasts. You should consult them before doing anything further, because otherwise the whole effort is just wasted.

[stevenpw]

@jukkaokauppinen

As I've pointed out in previous posts, I have consulted people who remember this event and also some that are similar (in Liverpool). 5 in all. As a matter of fact, two of these PRIMARY SOURCES are in the documentary, one of whom works at a local museum.

Your profile says your 39, which means you where born after WW2, so where ever your getting your information from seems incorrect.

[jukkaokauppinen]

@stevenpw

So, what documented sources there are? People tend to remember things wrong. People even invent things and lie. Things get distorted.

Fact is, so far. while Luftwaffe bombers did raid Liverpool, those were night raids. There were no raids escorted by Me 109s. It did not have the range for the job.

Again, I suggest you to research the background for this supposed event, see what has been written on it, the date then this happened. reference it against Luftwaffe raids on this date.

[stevenpw]

@jukkaokauppinen

ME 109's where also used for reconnaissance missions. Many people from Liverpool claim to have seen them in the city during the war. With the use of drop tanks, it seems feasible that their range could make it that far.

I'm making a film based on peoples memories, if you wish to further debate them, buy the DVD when it's available, track down the interviewees, and take it up with them.

[TimRuffle]

FWIW I knew someone who remembered her school being strafed by a Messerschmidt when she was in the playground- this is in the North East so I guess the range would be about the same unless it came from Norway.

I suppose it's possible that every enemy aircraft was a Messerschmidt to her at school age but presumably someone took notes.

[stevenpw]

@TimRuffle

Thanks Tim. I've done a bit of research and found out that the Messerchmitts carried drop tanks (extra fuel) and did in actual fact make it as far as Liverpool.

[danielmills3]

@stevenpw my nan jean nightingale was on a train in liverpool and it was shot at by nazis

[Snedger]

I worked with a man some years ago in Liverpool who, too young for the forces during the Blitz was a volunteer with the AFS. He could remember hearing aerial gunfire during the raids. I wonder was it the bomber's own machine guns being fired. That might account for it.

[NearAbbeyRoad]

@jukkaokauppinen

"Trusting witnesses "I was there, I saw with my own eyes" is notoriously unreliable, especially with wartime events."

The event and location are not in question - I'm sure the Overhead Rail ways was hit by alone plane. It was bombed along it length. Just the model of plane is in question.

[NearAbbeyRoad]

@jukkaokauppinen

"Well. Nice video but historically incorrect. Me 109s did not operate that far inland during Battle of Britain."

The planes over the city could have been later than 1940.

[NearAbbeyRoad]

@jukkaokauppinen

Individual planes did fly over Liverpool in broad daylight. They tended to be the longer range JU88s.

I recall one lady telling me she saw a dog fight over the river. What planes were involved I don't know.

[jukkaokauppinen]

@stevenpw

Trusting witnesses "I was there, I saw with my own eyes" is notoriously unreliable, especially with wartime events. Everything must be always compared to written documents and checked if those have any correlation. As the major fact is, Me 109 did not have range to reach Liverpool and return. Sure, Liverpool was raided many times and many things certainly happened. A lone 109 strafing railway is just a confused story, though, unless the event can be verified from archives.