The Thriller in Manila part 1

2009 documentary on Muhammad Ali vs. Joe Frazier III

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Sports

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• ali
• frazier
• boxing
• sports

[324582782]

@SongsMikelikes damn bro it's called promoting a fight. It was never personal and turned frazier's hundred thousand dollar pay cheque in to millions.

[evilTaker90]

@SongsMikelikes I'm glad that they became friends after their boxing career :)

[Scr3amingN1nja47]

@lwmson Bob Arum is far from being an objective source. His opinion does not bear weight in this discussion. Of course this is biased, anything told from one perspective will be; that point is not in dispute, it says from the very beginning that this is Joe's side of the story. This is not propaganda though. Two consistent narrators are Ferdie Pacheco (Ali's corner for years) and Ali's own biographer, offering juxtaposition to Joe's perspective. Ali is a great man, but he didn't treat Joe fairly

[lwmson]

@pdt1515 Just like no one gives a fuck about you, Milksop. (And don't even waste time responding. Your message will be deleted from my account.)

[ITSGLENN83]

@cv003799 aggreed.

[pdt1515]

@lwmson No one here gives a fuck about you or Bob Arum.

Most people came here to watch a great film. This movie notes very early on that this film is about Joe Frazier, "The Other Man" in Manila.

For most, myself included, this movie brings up 90 minutes of history and pleasant nostalgia.

Get lost creep.

Joe, rest in piece my friend.

[lwmson]

@Scr3amingN1nja47 It's a BIASED, slanted perspective, which makes it propaganda. Add to that, a lot of information asserted, particularly in regard to the fight trilogy, is untrue. As Bob Arum said the doc is designed to demean Ali and unfairly portray him as a demonic figure.

[xjay1234]

Ali really was pathetic though sometimes the way he acted I mean say what you like about Floyd Mayweather Jr but he never insulted his fellow black fighters in the way Ali did - if a white person said the stuff Ali said we would call him racist but cos it is Ali it is just mocking get real!

[Scr3amingN1nja47]

This isn't propaganda, it's perspective. Frazier has a side to the story as well. I'm an Ali fan, he's one of my idols, but a lot of you are reflexively going over board trying to defend him. You have to accept that while a great man, he is not perfect. He's made mistakes in his life. This documentary takes nothing from Ali's legacy, but you have to accept the man for who he is, not idealize him and pretend he has no flaws. Joe is also a great man, and he deserves to have his story heard.

[cv003799]

@324582782 its not for you to say if it was personal. i think joe and his family were hurt by the slurs. dont you tell them how to take it!

[324582782]

@rdcvgr88 why so serious?

[lwmson]

@rdcvgr88 You don't have your facts straight. Ali never called Joe "uneducated." He did call him "ignorant," which is something to the same effect, but the time he called Joe "ignorant" and it led to an altercation in a TV studio in '74, Joe was the one who instigated it. Of course, this biased documentary has edited the footage to make it appear that Ali was the instigator, but Ali calling Joe "ignorant" on that TV show was a reaction to Joe's banter.