Separation of Church and State
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@7floridaboy I hope I have shown you enough facts for you to see that this country was never founded as a Christian nation. Obama was right. If people would only read the documents that our founding fathers left for us there would be no confusion. The problem is when people get challenged on something that they believed their whole lives it's hard to except the truth. read the Age of reason by Thomas Paine and Treaty of Peace and Friendship between the US and Tripoli. you'll see that Im right.
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@7floridaboy The truth is that there was as much separation and differences on religion as there is today. Though some were Christian a lot of the founding fathers were Deist. Deist believe in a creator, God, or higher power, but could only find God through reason. No documents from our nations beginnings do you find the name Jesus Christ; only God. and the best thing about the word God is that it's subjective. It could mean whatever you want it to mean. That is the brilliance of their work.
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@7floridaboy Separation of church and state was accomplished by judicial fiat in 1947. In 1947 the Supreme Court interpreted the first amendment and ruled that the framers of the Constitution meant that there should be a separation of church and state. so though the words are not in the constitution specifically but it is law.
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@7floridaboy One important US document that not many people are aware of is the Treaty of Peace and Friendship between the United States and the Bey and Subjects of Tripoli of Barbary. Article XI of this treaty which was started in the administration of George Washington and which was ratified in the administration of John Adams reads, "As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion. Most founding fathers were Deist not Christians.
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@7floridaboy though some of our founding father were Christians most were not. People like Thomas Jefferson, George Washington and Benjamin Franklin were avid readers of the great philosophers of the European Enlightenment. They treasured the ideas found in the works of such thinkers as Descartes, Voltaire, Bacon and Locke. Most of the founding fathers were Deist, but all of them, above all were secular. Read the age of reason from Thomas Paine. Paine is the same man that wrote common sense
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Hmm . . , that is funny I don't recall any government document stating that "we are made in God's image". Not one. There we go again confusing the word creator with the Biblical God. I do recall a section of the Constitution that states, "Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion". Which would indicate that religions, such as Christianity, Judaism, Islam etc, are to have nothing to do with the legal and moral aspects of our Government.
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You don't need a rights endowed by a creator. Nature FORCES one into existence and so we automatically have rights by definition. Creator is a just an ambiguous word. My parents created me with the assumption that I would have rights based on our own nature.
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@7floridaboy Then why were the founders fleeing from a theocracy??? YOu claim the separation of church & state doesn't mean church says out of the state?? The two go hand in hand. If you allow one church preference or power THRU the gov't then you have a theocracy. This should be obvious.
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First off the constitution was created by christians... the sepration of church and state is not to keep the church out of the state.. its to keep the state out of the church... they dont write that in history books anymore to keep the people away form the church. the devil is taking over more everyday.. its ashame that americans dont remember the truth because they are being blinded by enetertainment and T.V.. go to vergina and find out yourselfs!
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There are many faiths including those of no-faith in position of power throughout the world. To help make this world a better place to live, we need to use the language of science to explain and prove that our fundamental Rights of: Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness are bestowed onto us by the Laws of Nature or “Nature’s God” at conception. See proof at: watch?v=tdNYVZQYJqI
If we forget that and if we allow things to change for the worse, America will fall and I don't know what will happen but it will not be good. United we stand devided we fall.
REALGREYBLUE 3 years ago 4
How well said and succinct this was. Thank you for this video.
dovad16 4 years ago 4