Stone in my Hand - Everlast

Music by Everlast. Footage of Apache Shooting.

This video has caused a great deal of controversy. Originally shown on ABC TV, it was first shown as an object lesson as to what happens to Iraqi Insurgents who dare show weapons before US forces. However, as time goes on, doubt has begun to surface as to whether the people shown blown to pieces with the 30mm cannon on the Apache were really insurgents, or just harmless farmers.

This is what is known about the tape. It is from the thermographic camera system of an Apache attack helicopter. The image is of heat, not of light. The time of day appears to be midmorning, based on the time display seen on the heads-up display. Military time uses a 24 hour system, there is no "PM" in military clocks.

The vehicle at the far left of the video is a farm tractor, facing away. The engine is running as is evidenced by the hot vertical exhaust tupe and the glowing undercarriage seen in the thermal image. Attached to the rear of the tractor is a plough, and the dirt in the foreground shows clear furrows.

There is a longer version of the tape (which may not play on everyone's computers) that does show one individual taking a long object or objects from his car and taking it over to the vehicle at the far right. It is assumed by those who want to justify the shooting that this object is a missile launcher assembly being discarded. However, one cannot explain why someone who had just fired off an RPG at US troops would bother to put the used launcher into his car, only to them drive someplace else and then discard it. Nor does it make sense that the man would place a weapon over there it is likely to be run over by the tractor and plough, damaging both the weapon and the plough assembly as well. And, given that the man does not in any way point the object at the approaching helicopter, it is clear that at least he does not think it is a working weapon. Given that the object is actually longer than an RPG launcher assembly, three alternative explanations suggest themselves.

1. That the object is a bundle of long handled farm tools being taken over to where the farmers are working with the tractor.
2. That the object is a bundle of thin poles to be driven into the ground ahead of the tractor to give the tractor driver a visible guide to keep the furrows straight.
3. As suggested by a reader, that the object may be part of the plastic pipe irrigation system used in dry climate agriculture.

We can deduce several facts from the video.

From the perspective seen in the video, it is clear that the Apache helicopter is not being threatened. It is hovering, moving slowly forward, and not engaging in any evasive maneuvers which would suggest that the individuals on the ground have threatened the apache in any way.

From the body language of the individuals on the ground, it is clear that they themselves do not feel they are doing anything which should be of concern to a US helicopter hovering nearby. In other words, they do not act like the object thrown into the field near the tractor is anything the US helicopter would object to. No sooner has the man delivered the object to the tractor than he turns and walks back to the car. At no time does he (or anyone else) act like they are trying to escape the area until the Apache opens fire.

From The Geneva Convention 3-1: 1. Persons taking no active part in the hostilities, including members of armed forces who have laid down their arms and those placed hors de combat by sickness, wounds, detention, or any other cause, shall in all circumstances be treated humanely, without any adverse distinction founded on race, colour, religion or faith, sex, birth or wealth, or any other similar criteria

The very FIRST person gunned down was the person who had been driving the tractor. This video records a war crime.

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[sultanofswing2222]

They wear a viable threat and had to be taken care of. The "tube" is clearly an SA-7, a shoulder fired, heat seeking, surface to air missile.

[NothingTalk]

How is it clearly anything?

[HumanShot]

What should be said is that thunderfoot is still full of shit.

These were insurgents hiding weapons in a field. They got caught. And got killed for it. If you watch the man next to the tractor when the shooting starts, he sure isn't taking the cover off a shovel!

He is taking the cover off an RPG or MANPADS in order to shoot at the helicopters. Don't let thunderfoot's "analysis" (cut and paste hack job more like it) mislead you.

[NothingTalk]

hahhaha MANPADS. Thats great.

[NothingTalk]

Hey everyone click more info on the right side over there. Some very interesting information about this video you should read.

[SongDetective]

Well Played in the movie Drive Angry - Like if it sent you here!

[Adamo1890]

@ThaFurian He didn't even know where the fires come from, so he hided behind the tractor, according to his friend corpse.

[Adamo1890]

God please, hang those fuckers. Please budda kill those idiots. Any other sth - please, let this trash just die! I so want have gun, wall and those murders from helicopter in front of me. Please let that happen. I would slowly kill this stupid nation of murders, whole military, fucking stupid USA govs. Fuck You just fuck you for killing innocent farmers, tailback'ing civils on the road with this fucking humvee, all in all - for terrorising other nations! Fuck USA fucking gov arrrrr!!!

[madmaxmaddy09]

thumbs up if drive angry bought you here

[ahmedshinwari]

@Noorshah13 You mean, American Government is criminal...cause the people of America are not taken into account when conducting such atrocities.

[Noorshah13]

american are criminal

[Svetovidijak]

Stupid americans evil bastards

[ThaFurian]

im not sure they were farmers. i mean if i saw my friend just get get open fired on in the middle of a field the last thing i would thinking about is reaching in the tractor for a shovel but iv never been in such a situation so....but if i was reaching for something it would be a weapon. but then again everyone reacts to situations a bit differently then others. so to me whether they were just regular ppl or up to something is still unclear to me. but hey that's my opinion

[1evilsatan]

I don't want to be to specific so I won't get a lot of hate mail, but I had a relative that was in the air force for both the on going middle east wars and I actually got to see some of the footage in your video before it went public. Thanks for the video.

[xpop21315]

@wyso1988 STFU