Town Hall Meetings - Rep. Pete Stark
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Look at the nasty liberals. You don't have a right to stuff.
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@onlyrey Yeah, 4 months. BFD. If you are for universal health care or the so called "public option" you are for redistribution of wealth. Hence leftist.. Don't like it; change your views. Try to make your points without lying. You lied when you said $0 and you know it. Then you conflate the $54B with the "cost of reform". Nice try. Nobody is giving up any civil rights. Much of the cost of HC in this country is due to government regs and liability exposure to begin with.
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The post you responded to is 4 months old.
1. You're right $54 Billion scored by the CBO which makes for a great total of 0.5% (as a percentage of the $1Trillion cost of the reform). In comparison with total cost of healthcare, say $3 Trillion per year, $5.4 Billion per year is 0.18%. Give up a civil right for 0.18% to me is not worth it.
2. You called me a "leftist". I consider myself center. Try to make your arguments without calling people names.
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@pythiasdelirium Gee I wonder. The government that makes all the rules, enforces them and prints the money is now in direct competition with private industry.
Maybe that's why GM gets all kind of government secured(taxpayer) now that they are government motors and Ford doesn't. What could possibly go wrong?
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@onlyrey CBO did NOT score tort reform at $0. They said it would save 54 BILLION.
See: Washington Post Oct 10/09. Why do leftist always tell easily disprovable lies?
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Liar.
Postal workers have had health care provided that cover dependents for decades now.
My dad was also a vet and would not go near a VA. He died because of incompetence in Medicare management(government). My Grandfather died of dehydration in a VA extended care facility. That's government health care. They also preformed unneeded surgeries on him. Medicare waited months to review and deny cancer treatment for my mom. Blue cross stepped up right away.
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@pythiasdelirium "How is making a public option eliminating competition?"
Because of the nature of govt bureaucracy, it will always be less efficient than a private effort.
Since it is less efficient, either it will cost more (and no one will use it) or it will be tax subsidized.
If it is tax subsidized, then those who don't use it will be paying twice for the same service. A few may, but the financial incentive will be to use the govt service.
Thus a decrease in competition.
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And finally, I will reiterate that my complaint was about the price of insurance, not my father's wage. However since you clearly ignored my meaning the first and the second time I said it, I doubt that it will do much good.
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"Eliminate govt regulations that stifle the very innovation and LIABILITY that create the incentives..." blah blah blah
People don't accidentally remove stomachs because they have no incentive not to. Responding to my specific arguments with dogma IS NOT responding at all.
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@CurtHowland "More competition cannot be achieved by eliminating competition."
How is making a public option eliminating competition? Private insurance can co-exist with a public option (as it does in Germany). Are you able to respond to questions without using ideological slogans?
NO HEALTH CARE OR OBAMA CARE. IT WILL COST YOU THE TAX PAYER DEARLY. JUST YOU WAIT AND SEE. PETE STARK IS A TOTAL IDIOT. YOU CAN SEE HE IS SUFFERING FROM DEMENTIA.
fjerins 1 year ago 6
It was a small venue because Stark cannot handle any sort of friction or opposition. His responses are always to attack, insult, be arrogant, slander, and demean anyone who doesn't fall sheepishly into line. He needed to limit the crowd size...and I'm sure they tried to stack the crowd actually allowed inside with his few supporters.
professorofliberty 1 year ago 4