SCi4 - RO8 : Stephano vs NightEnD G3

John "TotalBiscuit" Bain & Shaun "Apollo" Clark cast the SHOUTcraft Invitational Tournament 4 (SCi4) on http://www.Twitch.tv/TotalBiscuit Original air date : Jan. 14th & 15th 2012. Check out our Website : http://www.SHOUTcraft.com Follow us on Twitter : http://www.Twitter.com/CynicalBrit Fan us on Facebook : http://www.Facebook.com/CynicalBrit

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[InstaPickles]

What are you doing down here? There are spoilers here!

[DeltaDoggy]

Game starts 1:38



[8DX]

@DatRoamingGnome Naaaaaaah, it's all good ^.^

[DatRoamingGnome]

@8DX You seem upset.

[Th4w]

@zsreich

I always like to play safe except that I always 1 gate expand, since they never attack that early. Any sort of harassment can be dealt with the zealot, which if I were to play against a real opponent would chrono out before the nexus. I'd really love to play against you but 1st I can barely beat the hard AI (It's really the beginning that's hard, they tend to rush a lot and are afterwards left with no defense) and I'm also using pirate SC2. Can't afford 60$ for MP ;(

[zsreich]

@Th4w exactly, I consider cheese to be a high risk, high reward type strategy. Whether that is underhanded or silly or not is a matter of opinion. But as for myself I generally follow a more safe and reactionary playstyle. But I'm not very good anyways :P

[Th4w]

@zsreich

So that's "Cheese" right? Having a strategy that is very effective against your opponent but if it gets discovered they can counter it immediately and can result to a loss.

However you never know when your opponent will strike/scout. And the more it takes for him to attack the higher is the chance for him to attack right away. This way pressure starts to build up and can result into micro fuckups. I'd consider it WAY too risky. I normally like playing safe.

[zsreich]

@Th4w

Your right about that. Mass carrier takes a long time to build and is very expensive. You basically have to hope your opponent will be defensive and start teching about the time you get your third expo. Your army will be much weaker during that time and if your opponent scouts and attacks you lose. So its a gamble. You also don't want to reveal your plan too early or you lose. However, in that game the protoss had time to tech into carrier or mship since the zerg was defensive.

[Th4w]

@zsreich

The time that stephano took the brood lords out was much later then the time where nightend went with the stalker/zealot/colossus build and it was just too late game to transition to mass carrier.

Not a pro SC2 player, so correct me if I'm wrong.

[8DX]

@DatRoamingGnome Uh, "British" is not an accent. Scotts pronounce trailing r's. Certain English accents don't. Some US accents don't. It's called rhotic and non-rhotic accents and the trick is that non-rhotic accents only pronounce r's within a word or if the next word starts with a vowel-sound. It helps to get around =)

[zsreich]

he should have gone either archon toilet or try for mass carrier. That army composition just dies to that many broodlords!

[DatRoamingGnome]

I kept thinking this map was called Tal'Darim Ulti (short for ultimate, or something). The more I heard it, the more I thought that it could be something lore-related (like Tal'Darim Altah/Alltuh/Alti/Ultuh). Then I remembered wondering why queens would ever consider injecting lava into their hives...until I watched another caster and understood my mistake. British people must fear the letter "r." There is no other possible explanation.