The Historical Jesus: Man vs. Myth (Dr. Ehrman) II

http://www.bartdehrman.com/

Ehrman's most important work-to-date reveals, among its many findings: * Only 8 of the 27 books of the New Testament were actually written by the authors to whom they're attributed. Others are likely forgeries. * The gospels provide remarkably divergent portrayals of Jesus. * The message of the Apostle Paul and the message of gospel writer Matthew are completely at odds over the question of whether a follower of Jesus also had to observe the Jewish law. * The Nicene Creed and the Trinity were constructs of the later church and are not found in the pages of the Bible. * Traditional doctrines such as the suffering Messiah, the divinity of Christ, and the notion of heaven and hell are not based on the teachings of the historical Jesus. * The commonly told story of Jesus -- his birth, death, and resurrection is actually a composite of four vastly different gospel narratives.

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[TheTomtompiper]

@SokJuice "You know what would provide validity to claims of miracles? Numerous independent accounts." No it wouldn't it would only provide validity that people claimed to have seen miracles. We have "Numerous independent accounts." of alien abduction, and they are first hand sworn testimonies, do you assert that these "Validate" alien abduction? Poppycock.

[11111011]

This is a great lecture. Thanks for putting this up!

[bonnie43uk]

If you say something with enough conviction, people will believe you. A classic example is Joseph Smith, founder of the latter day saints Mormon religion. Reading the accounts of his revelation it seems to me ridiculous beyond belief, yet there are millions of people who DO believe it. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

[Dzonrid]

@jefersontorres Could he write?

[lautaa33]

@TheSultan03 lol yeah you are right, it happens that I hear that no independant account proves miracles in the last episode of the atheist experience and in other sources. whatever.

[TheSultan03]

@lautaa33 Most people that discount the bibles validity include amognst their arguments the fact that the bible has little to no outside verification. I found it a unique point of view to dismiss the proposal wholesale, and depend solely on the realistic probability of the assertions. You apparantly agree. I'm glad. You seemed to argue my acceptance of a point you agree with, but whatever.

[lautaa33]

@TheSultan03 it is not unique, is the most common (yet valid) point ever made

[TheSultan03]

@TheTomtompiper That is a very interesting and unique point. I like it!

[wadejared5]

@SokJuice

So we should start adding miracles to our children's history books?