General Wrangel ( The Black Baron)

A tribute to the man who made Communists tremble. To them he was the Black Baron. They even wrote a song about him.

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• Wrangel
• Black Baron
• White Army
• Russian reveloution
• 1917

[georgije91]

General Vrangel is buried in Russian Orthodox Church in Belgrade,capital of Serbia and my hometown.I,as a descendant of white emmigrant often go to generals grave to pry for his soul.Greetings to my Orthodox Russian brothers from Serbia.

[MrBulgaran]

Смърт на Комунизма!!

[Cyberspine]

@ImperialRussianGuard And I'm going to answer like I answered before: You didn't say so, that's what I said.

[ImperialRussianGuard]

@Cyberspine Let me repeat my question, in what part of my video did I say," the whites were 100% good heroes and every white general and soldier fought with honor." You are entitled to your artistic views, as I am entitled to mine. No one is preventing you from making videos in what ever manner you see fit. However I do object when you attempt to distort the truth about myself and my views.

[Cyberspine]

@ImperialRussianGuard I didn't say you said so. That's what I said.

And my conception of a tribute to a great man would only include the unbiased truth. After all, since he was so great, he doesn't need bias to seem great to the viewer.

[ImperialRussianGuard]

I assume that you are aware of the term "tribute." It is a term which implies bias and propagandism. Since you say that you haven't altered what was said in the video, would you be so kind as to show me where I said that," the whites were 100% good heroes and every white general and soldier fought with honor."

[Stronghold18]

kaiserreich mod XDXD

[Cyberspine]

@ImperialRussianGuard My original post was indeed sarcastic. The video is by any standard incredibly biased, and nowhere does it say that it is a fictitious work of art or propaganda, except now later in the comment section. As such I thought it was your genuine opinion.

And in no way have I been condescending. I haven't tried to alter what was said in the video, in the contrary. My own interpretation is that the general attitude is black and white compared to what the history books say.

[ImperialRussianGuard]

I would say the very same thing about your sarcastic remarks. You attempted to condescend me by completely misrepresenting my position. That is how this discussion began in the first place. Through the entirety of this discussion, you have yet to offer any argument in opposition. The only thing you have done is immaturely mocked your opponents position. As far as I am concerned, if anyone has engaged in low class attacks, it has been you.

[Cyberspine]

@ImperialRussianGuard Personal attacks waste everybody's time. They give no extra weight to anything you say in a discussion, period.

[ImperialRussianGuard]

Simply being insulted by your opponent is not an ad hominem attack. If had not addressed your criticism at all, and instead referred to you as intellectually vacuous, then you might have had a valid point. However, I did address your claim that I was seeing things in black and white by pointing out that you were making a straw man fallacy. Simply the presence of a personal attack does not indicate ad hominem fallacy, the attack must be used with the purpose of undermining the argument.

[ImperialRussianGuard]

Simply because I refer to Wrangel as hero, that does not mean I think every single member of the white army was a complete angel. I have said nothing in my video that would have in anyway implied that. This video was not meant to be objective, I have specifically made it clear that the intent of this video was to be a tribute to Wrangel in the video description, and I have never tried to pass it as anything else. The purpose of this video is to be propagandistic, and not academically objective.