Devin Townsend talk about Food (Ep 2)

Part 2 - Devin TOWNSEND talk about Food with Gilles LARTIGOT " The French Heavy Metal Cook" for Heavy Metal Food - Season 2
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[HeavyMetalCook]

I made for Devin, some Special Recipes. Juices, Almond Milk, mix of seeds and Herbal tea for Night and Day. I'll publish the Part 3 Wed 25th

Thank you for promoting my work guys.

[countlambda]

@psyoptica Haha, my diet is already 100% animal based. I feel good, better than before. I'm not somebody who preaches without following his own advice. As for your "arguments", it seems I was adressing yours much more thoroughly than you did mine. Your latest one is also untrue, but I've already wasted too much time in this "discussion".

[psyoptica]

@countlambda ... all I can say is that you're severely misguided if you believe that humans are "maladapted" to a plant-based diet. Our anatomy is 99% in line with that of an herbivore. Long, unacidic, curved, intestines. Alkaline saliva. Difficulty with cholesterol, etc. If you honestly believe that humans are "maladapted" to a plant-based diet, try eating nothing but meat and dairy and see how you feel.

[psyoptica]

@countlambda You never really responded to any of my arguments. Your tangent about topsoil is completely irrelevant. I never even mentioned cellulose. The study you mentioned found lower but STABLE rates of EPA and DHA in vegetarians. It is not a lie that those nutrients are found in plants. Choline is found in almonds, peanuts, cauliflower, beans. ALA is found in flax, soy, pumpkin, walnut. I could go on, but...

[countlambda]

@psyoptica btw, did you know grazing cows are used to replete topsoil?

[countlambda]

@psyoptica Saying "The other things you mention are readily available in plants" is simply a lie. So is your "bottom line", but you're welcome to try depending on genes we last used 6 million years ago. That's where what adaptation we have for plants stems from after all. You realize of course that at the rate agriculture is going, topsoil will be depleted in less than 50 years, so it's not like you'll be doing the world any good while sacrificing your long term health.

[countlambda]

@psyoptica But throwing around studies is like beating a dead horse. Conversion of ALA to EFAs is inefficient (below 5%), which perfectly exemplifies our maladaptation to plant based nutrition. Animal foods contain the forms of nutrients optimal for humans.

[countlambda]

@psyoptica Your mentioning of the food chain is as ludicrous as that fact is obvious. Individual tolerance of plant foods varies, but a veg*an diet isn't optimal for anyone. As for the study, the one I had found mentioned this: "The proportions of plasma EPA and DHA were lower in the vegetarians and in the vegans than in the meat-eaters".

[countlambda]

@psyoptica Do you realize that ruminants have four stomachs optimized for bacterial fermentation and digestion of cellulose, whereas humans cannot digest it? Have you compared the digestive track of an ape to that of a human? The human colon is too small for achieving optimal health while trying to depend on SCFAs et al. from bacterial fermentation, not to mention a host of other problems arising from such a tactic.

[psyoptica]

@countlambda The bottom line is this: there is no nutrient that can be derived from an animal that can't be derived from a plant. That should be fairly self-evident if you know anything about the food chain. Eating animals is a choice, not a necessity for human beings.

[psyoptica]

@countlambda How did that bacteria get into ruminants to begin with? From plants. What I meant by "synthesize" is that our bodies convert ALA to DHA and EPA. The study is not misquoted. It can't get more blatant than this: "Despite having significantly lower intakes of EPA and DHA (from fish or fish oil), blood levels of EPA and DHA in vegans and vegetarians were approximately the same as regular fish eaters. " The other things you mention are readily available in plants.