@billysue2 well jeff has 3 pro boxing matchs with 2 wins and a draw, pedro clearly can strike, and barnett is a decent striker at the very least. go back to your brian stann nutthugging
@MrFlyingMonkeyMan monsens striking is virtually non existant,rizzo wasnt great in that fight either.If josh could stand with pedro that tells you pedro is no brilliant striker.
@billysue2 eh? look at his fight with pedro rizzo, he lost but he showed good striking against a awesome striker. plus monson is way faster than some of the sloths like forrest griffin.
Sak's loss to Royce was when Royce was apparently juicing, if I tied up with someone and realized they were way stronger than previously thought, I'd probably avoid the ground too. Why should any intelligent fighter go to the ground against another expert until they have the upper hand. Re: Royler - He avoided going to the ground before he subbed him... is that like he was for it before he was against it? It doesn't matter that he avoided the ground if he eventually subbed him.
I was very clear about subs in MMA. When Renzo's only submission loss is against you that says something. I meant Frank Shamrock, not Ken. Ken is a brawler with a couple of leg locks, all he ever was, all he'll ever be. Frank Shamrock in his prime was pulling off slick submissions and flowing from one sub attempt to another. He put on clinics back in the day (sad to say he is far from the fighter he used to be, more concerned about a payday and clowning around than really fighting).
yeah he subbed royler after avoiding the ground with him.
he refused to go to the ground with royce and admitted he was better. shamrock said on the ultimate fighter his jiujitsu isn't good, he is a leg locker and brawler. aoki is good, but he isn't as good as nog. sakuraba best sub win is renzo.
sato got destroyed as well as sakurai in the abudahbi
Sakuraba has subs on the people who reinvented jujitsu. When was the last time Nog submitted a Gracie? Sakurai and Shamrock in their primes linked submissions together better than just about anyone. Sato with his flying armbars, triangles, and reverse triangles put him on a different level in the late 90's. Aoki has just as many 1st round submission victories as Nog has, but fewer fights total... doing in 6 years what Nog did in 9. I think that qualifies him as being his equal.
@billysue2 well jeff has 3 pro boxing matchs with 2 wins and a draw, pedro clearly can strike, and barnett is a decent striker at the very least. go back to your brian stann nutthugging
MrFlyingMonkeyMan 1 year ago
@MrFlyingMonkeyMan monsens striking is virtually non existant,rizzo wasnt great in that fight either.If josh could stand with pedro that tells you pedro is no brilliant striker.
billysue2 1 year ago
@billysue2 eh? look at his fight with pedro rizzo, he lost but he showed good striking against a awesome striker. plus monson is way faster than some of the sloths like forrest griffin.
MrFlyingMonkeyMan 1 year ago
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Writer031 1 year ago
cameraman youre so stupid
santiagoriverag 2 years ago
nog has no grappling credentials at all at international ,but level but monsen is a terrible mma fighter,slow as a pig with no striking whatsoever.
billysue2 2 years ago
Sak's loss to Royce was when Royce was apparently juicing, if I tied up with someone and realized they were way stronger than previously thought, I'd probably avoid the ground too. Why should any intelligent fighter go to the ground against another expert until they have the upper hand. Re: Royler - He avoided going to the ground before he subbed him... is that like he was for it before he was against it? It doesn't matter that he avoided the ground if he eventually subbed him.
bounce510 2 years ago
I was very clear about subs in MMA. When Renzo's only submission loss is against you that says something. I meant Frank Shamrock, not Ken. Ken is a brawler with a couple of leg locks, all he ever was, all he'll ever be. Frank Shamrock in his prime was pulling off slick submissions and flowing from one sub attempt to another. He put on clinics back in the day (sad to say he is far from the fighter he used to be, more concerned about a payday and clowning around than really fighting).
bounce510 2 years ago
yeah he subbed royler after avoiding the ground with him.
he refused to go to the ground with royce and admitted he was better. shamrock said on the ultimate fighter his jiujitsu isn't good, he is a leg locker and brawler. aoki is good, but he isn't as good as nog. sakuraba best sub win is renzo.
sato got destroyed as well as sakurai in the abudahbi
kingshahine 2 years ago
Sakuraba has subs on the people who reinvented jujitsu. When was the last time Nog submitted a Gracie? Sakurai and Shamrock in their primes linked submissions together better than just about anyone. Sato with his flying armbars, triangles, and reverse triangles put him on a different level in the late 90's. Aoki has just as many 1st round submission victories as Nog has, but fewer fights total... doing in 6 years what Nog did in 9. I think that qualifies him as being his equal.
bounce510 2 years ago