Screening discussion of Hip Hop Beyond Beats and Rhymes

CORRECTION ON THE DATE: SHOULD SAY 2007 not 2008. This dicussion took place with folks from the Phoenix area hip hop community after screening the doc Hip Hop Beyond Beats and Rhymes.
June 4,2007. 3Roots Cafe, Tempe AZ.

Category:

News & Politics

Tags:

• national
• hip
• hop
• political
• convention
• troy
• nkrumah
• grime

[kuken3000]

This video show how the world is macho place.

Everytime girl talked they didn't skow it

[troynkrumah]

maybe u need to rewatch it.. is see several women talking? And being that i was the one that edited it i did the best i could with the volume issues and camera angels.. My suggestion would be that you put on a program, make a video of the discussion and post it up, and if it is that much better i will quickly pull this one and promote the one you made.. anything short of that means ur just talkin! We we all know how much talk is worth.

[gjohnson87109]

One question. Are they getting radio or TV play? No. They are localized and will not break out until they buy into the system. And as far a a broad statement, sometimes in order to paint a wall you must use a broad brush. The thing I was trying to say is that what today's rapper is doing to the black culture is selling out. They rap on nonessentials such as getting gats and shooting blacks. Ho's and rolls. Bling bling and wet dings. Not much social value there!

[troynkrumah]

I understand your point.. but my point is that if your paint brush is so broad, you might end up getting paint on a beautiful picture that someone hung on that ugly wall...

[troynkrumah]

Also, whether someone gets radio or tv play does not determine if they are or are not a rapper.. so when you generalize, whether you mean to or not, you put all mc's into that same catagory as garbage.. and if you do that you lose a huge base of folks who agree with your argument that there is garbage out there.. but cannot side with you because doing so would be suicide on their part since your comment puts them in that same catagory..

[troynkrumah]

I know what you were trying to say, but many young cats with possitive social values in their music may not.. there is always gonna be good and bad, yin and yang.. we can't get rid of the bad without infringing on individual rights.. but we can support the good and do our best to highlight it and bring it to the forefront.

peace and thanks for the feedback!

[charwash]

This is really inciteful. But I'd wish you'd show more footage of the discussion and less montages.

[gjohnson87109]

troyn: This information and ideas that I share are actually based on experience. I was Dj'ing when rap first hit the scene. I was a club DJ in Northern Italy for 3 years. I stop playing rap when the words became violent against our own people. When the word nigger and nigga started appearing regularly and hearing young Italians trying to be cool calling me a nigger. We influence the world with our culture. Just think what would happen if we started putting out a positive message.

[troynkrumah]

All Rappers? Thats a broad statement.. I know many rappers who have no kids, who refuse to buy into this evil empire, who stand up for their people and their women..  where do they fall under your Categorization?

[gjohnson87109]

Rappers are the "Steppin Fetchits" of this generation. They are fathers or becoming fathers of young men. We are the worlds first people. Let's take pride in that and stop being a revenue generator for the white euros.