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Uploaded by on May 21, 2008

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Footage of Europe during WWII, and of some modern day European Union cities on New Years Eve.

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  • The people are powerless, if they aren't tell me how you change the direction of the EU by voting, .

    Scotish and welsh MP act in the house of commons, and can purpose new laws and bills, and if they purpose a law that doesnt fit with their voter, the voters change who they vote for, and the MP lose their seat.

    The commission can being out what laws it wants, and not fear the loss of there seat (if this is not true tell me how voters can remove a commission).

  • @mez6117 Look, the direction the EU (as a Union) takes is controlled by more than one institution. The Commission, the European Parliament and the European Council (the head of state of each member). Each of these is staffed by elected or appointed members. The Commission can NOT enact any law it sees fit without democratic input by the institutions themselves or the acceptance of a member state. You talk as if it is a dictatorship.

  • @mez6117 And British MEPs act in the European Parliament. What is your point here? You are obviously failing to understand the process of how EU law comes into being.

    Ultimately, if you disagree with membership of the EU, then vote for a British government which will remove us from it. We are free to leave.

  • @mez6117 If you're going to state that the EU is an undemocratic dictatorship, then you're going to need to justify the existence of our 'British Union' first. We have an unelected head of state. We have an unelected House of Lords. We have an unelected government in regards to Scotland/Wales, with the Conservatives coming 4th (I think) in the Scottish vote. Why are you not denouncing this and instead focussing your energy on the EU? I thought you cared for democracy?

  • If you think its so democratic answer me this, As a voter in the EU elections if you wanted to change the direction of the EU (say to a less federal super state direction, to a more trading block direction (like the british people were told)) who would you vote for ?

  • @mez6117 After that, can you explain to me how Scottish or Welsh voters can change the direction of the UK? Explain the Scottish or Welsh positions under a Conservative government they did not vote for.

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  • i agree we need the uk in the EU

  • Wonderful channel my friend. I am really glad to see more and more pro-EU British people, because UK is the heart of EU along with Germany and France. We need you to lead us Europeans to a better future, this will be the economic and political integration of EU.

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  • so i read through mez'z arguments against the EU's democratic proccesses and it struck me that what he pointed out was the flaw in every modern day democratic system. a flaw more evident in countrys that use a first past the post voting system.

  • BTW I am anti-federalist and not anti-eu, however the democractic defecit is there and plainly evident what I can't understand is why all this need for integration and federalism, aren't we united enough?

    Unfortunately the E.U. isn't that glorified pie in the sky that it's made out to be... far from it!

  • Problems of the E.U. in short:

    1. The Commission acts as both the legislative and the executive, the social strucutre isnt very different from that of the soviet union

    2. 'EU- nationalist' ideas were anti-eu citizens are disregarded (look up Vaclac Klaus's address to the EU)

    3. The E.U. parliament does not have enough power

    4. The Commission is pretty much unrestricted from enacting any laws that it likes, its a fallacy to think otherwise

    We solve these, we solve the EU question

  • It saddens me to see all these anti-EU comments all over the internet. People ignorant of the EU process and alll that the EU has done for them. I just hope that the EU will resist these nationalistic forces and that we'll come out of this financial crisis even stronger and more unified.

  • The commission is assembled by suggestion from Nation head of states(all of which are democratically elected), then the commission needs to be accepted by the EU democractically elected parliement and the European council(represented by every country in EU).

    Then anti-EU MORONS talk about unelected officials, but when somebody mentiones Robert Gates, Hillary Clinton., ministers in Icelandic and Norwegian government(all unelected by the same standard) those same morons stamp them as democratic

  • @mez6117

    You dont know what you are talking about. EU is MORE democratic than most nation states in the Western World. It is in fact TOO democratic since the democratic demands we make of EU would be thought to be lunacy in any other nation states. Treaties need to be accepted by every single member country and the commission effectively needs to be accepted by every country. Imagine if the president of the USA would need to be voted unanimously by every single state in the USA, pure lunacy.

  • LONG LIVE EUROPA!!!!!!!! greetings from england

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