I am with the bigots on this one

Should government be able to tell you who you can and cannot hire/fire? Even if you are a bigot?
sosanchorage.com this is a site this is opposed to the measure. These people are RIGHT for fuck sake, why do they need to bring religion into this? Just look at this ridiculous site, and these people are on the right side(for all the wrong reasons, it seems)!

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• libertarian
• discriminate
• bigots
• homosexuality
• government

[badmuffy]

This is like arguing that murder or theft shouldn't be against the law because "who am i to tell someone else what to do".. People are only garanteed freedom when they don't violate other peoples rights.. We as society decide what constitutes a violation of rights and we make these things crimes.. I guess the real question is not why shouldn't we legislate morality because all laws do that...It's why you think discrimination in the workplace doesn't violate someones rights?

[FearsEdge]

No, it isn't. At all. No one is under any obligation to give you a job. None. You are not entitled to one, and they are not required to give you one. So someone having bullshit, racist, or bigoted criteria for a job position does not violate your rights in any way.

[Proletariat12]

It's entirely in the place of the government to restrict business if they are detrimental to the state. That's sort of one of the the primary reason for forming a government...

How do you think morality progresses on a mass scale? Rarely it is a popular understanding, but 9 times out of ten it requires sanctions for later generations to be born into for their morality to be shaped under.

Like I said, nobody is advocating affirmative action. Just equal opportunity. You glossed over that point.

[FearsEdge]

There are plenty of ways you can discourage bigotry in the business world that do not involve getting the government to step all over personal freedom and private property rights. Your heart is in the right place, but you simply do not seem to grasp the implications of what you are proposing. What does it mean to freedom if the government can dictate who you associate with and why?

[5avan10]

Also, I wanted to add that if people want discrimination to end, there are already actions which can be taken without pushing new laws onto the books.

Don't like companies that discriminate against Jews? Don't do business with them!

Feel like you've been treated unfairly because you're an Atheist? Picket the company!

Educate the public!

Stand up for yourselves without crying to Big Brother and trying to get him to intervene on your behalf!

[GoblinXXX]

If someone wants to cut their own throat by not hiring a qualified person based on skin color or whatever, let'em.

[notfitforsociety]

It's a bit of a paradox. I want to be free but how free am I if everywhere I try to eat, sleep and work won't let me. This is why collectivist lay claim that they are protecting freedom not taking it away and they are right in this regard. What the collectivists miss is the question of where does it end. At what point do we stop regulating morality. Morality is subjective so who is to say what laws we should or shouldnt have. I dont know.

[NGOrchestra]

I wholeheartedly agree with Fearsedge.

Private businesses should be treated the same as private citizens. If a private citizen wants to hire someone to do an odd job for them and pay them $20, and they choose who to hire based on race, who are you to tell them not to?

[FearsEdge]

A free market would be great, but let's start with the most basic of all rights, the right to private property.

[FearsEdge]

"It's entirely in the place of the government to restrict business if they are detrimental to the state." I would argue that the government being able to dictate to private citizens who they are allowed to associate with and why is far more destructive than allowing people to make those determinations for themselves on their own private property.

[FearsEdge]

When does it stop encroaching on someone's freedom to not hire them? What if I don't hire them because they smoke? Should that be protected? How about if they use illegal drugs? They smell? I simply don't like them? When am I encroaching on their freedom when I choose not to hire them, and when do I actually get to make the decision? Do you see the problem? When does it end? How many behaviors and/or groups need to be protected? Who does not get protection?

[FearsEdge]

"bigotry in the business world is an activity that is not sanctioned by the freedom of speech"

It's a violation of the basic idea of private property. If I don't want to hire you, I don't even owe you an explanation, much less a good reason.

"it affects other people's freedom."

Explain how it affects others freedom, when you are not free to work wherever you want, you are not free to have any particular job. You are not free to not be fired.