David Fitzgerald Skepticon 3 "Examining the Existence of a Historical Jesus"

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[AgrippaTheMighty]

@boblackey1 “No there are 100's of secular/agnostic/atheist…can name about 60” What’s your evidence for the 100’s? Be my guest naming the 60, but that still wouldn’t be a significant number. “You don't trust anything a Christian writes except you trust that” yes, I can believe that they said that they don’t trust non-believers to be scholars of the bible. What’s the big deal?

And you continue to use sources from a xtian dominated field when you first have to debunk my articles.

[boblackey1]

@AgrippaTheMighty And when are you going to admit Fitzpatrick's lecture is replete with factual errors? I guess the next lecture from hyper-skeptic Fitzpatrick will be about the holocaust never happening. Or 9/11 was an inside job. That's why Bush was in Florida that day. He knew the planes were coming. Or the CIA or the Army killed Kennedy. When one removes hyper-skepticism, the evidence shows Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone & Jesus was executed by Pilate about 29CE.

[boblackey1]

@AgrippaTheMighty Talking about NOT a shred of evidence!! There is NOT a shred of evidence that Tacitus is a forgery. Yet amateur scholar & Jesus myth quack Ken Humphries says "It just LEAPS off the page that it's a forgery". This is from a man who has NO degree in ANYTHING that I can find. And Humphries also says " there is not a shred of evidence in non-Christian writings that Paul ever existed & all this letters are forgeries". THAT is hyper-skepticism. & it's usually wrong!

[boblackey1]

@AgrippaTheMighty You're hopeless!! Just a quick check of Wikipedia shows that almost ALL Tacitus scholars hold it's completely genuine. Not Bible scholars but Tacitus scholars. Most Josephus scholars agree the "TF" was written by Josephus with a later gloss by some Christian scribe. And the shorter James passage is accepted by virtually ALL Josephus scholars: See Dr Louis Feldman of NYU who is JEWISH & probably the most famous Josephus scholar in the world!

[boblackey1]

@AgrippaTheMighty "suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilate, and a most mischievous superstition THUS CHECKED FOR AWHILE, again broke out not only in Judea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome". There is NOT a extant Christian writing in the world that says Christianity disappeared for awhile & broke out again! Yet Jesus myth quacks say this is a forgery & the early church fathers were lying.

[boblackey1]

@AgrippaTheMighty For example in Irenaeus' letter to Florinus he states he saw & heard Polycarp personally in lower Asia several times & listened to Polycarp recount his discussions with the Apostle John AND WITH OTHERS who have personally seen & heard Jesus teach. Tacitus about 116CE wrote in his annals about Christians:"hated for their abominations, called Chrestians by the populace, CHRESTIS from whom the name had it's origin, suffered the extreme penalty..

[boblackey1]

@AgrippaTheMighty Polycarp (69-155), Irenaeus (2nd century-202CE) & Papias (born before 70CE - 150CE) ALL either met the Apostle John (6-100CE) or in the case of Irenaeus, met people who met the Apostle John INCLUDING Polycarp AND not only does Polycarp claim he met The Apostle John & was a follower, but John said he was a follower of Jesus & heard him speak many times. Also ALL three men wrote they met OTHERS who also saw & heard Jesus!

[boblackey1]

@AgrippaTheMighty If James DID write the epistle of James & John DID write his epistles & Jude his, then there ARE eyewitnesses to Jesus. Who wrote about Pontius Pilate during his lifetime? Or Josephus? Or hundreds of others who are thought to have lived in the 1st century? Also Paul in his epistles admits to meeting THREE men who knew Jesus (one of whom was Jesus' brother) and that he didn't get along with them. Josephus wrote about Jesus using a source document that Luke used

[boblackey1]

@AgrippaTheMighty No there are 100's of secular/agnostic/atheist New Testament scholars. I can name about 60 & that is just getting started. Most of the xian scholars work for denominations plus colleges & universities that are CHRISTIAN. Even that page I can't get to appear on my computer is from a CHRISTIAN website! You don't trust anything a Christian writes except you trust that!! Can you name someone from the 1st century that has a eyewitness writing about him?

[AgrippaTheMighty]

@boblackey1 You’re hopeless!! I presented 3 articles as evidence that it’s a xtian dominated field. You dismissed 2 with your 20 authors as “evidence” reiterating that the population among biblical scholars is 50/50. Does that mean that the total biblical scholar population in the world amount to 40??? WTF!!! And the 3rd your proof is “my Internet doesn’t work”. You have presented NOT ONE SHRED OF EVIDENCE for a historical Jesus outside of opinions of a xtian dominated field.