Mike Bender Golf Tip: The Downswing Pt. 1

Downswing Golf Tip with Top Ten Instructor, Mike Bender. Learn the proper way to generate more club head speed by understanding what starts the downswing.

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[caddismaster]

search POWER GOLF on you tube and you will see slow motion swing of Ben Hogan. Very enlightening and NOT WHAT THIS GUY IS PREACHING.

[caddismaster]

I must add that just before his club reached the top of the swing Hogan started his downswing with his front hip and he also had a forward lateral weight shift to his front foot at the same time he was turning his hip. This action created tremendous force and speed with the clubhead as the hands followed the arms which followed the shoulders which followed the legs which followed the hips. Take a look at baseball hitters, they need bat speed and they don't start with the hands to get it.

[caddismaster]

You look at slow motion video of all the great golfers or current PGA pros and they ALL initiate the downswing with their front hip. without exception!

[caddismaster]

I think Ben Hogan said it best in his Five Lessons book. Read pages 92, 106 thru 108, 114, 123 which supports the turning of the hips to initiate the downswing followed by the shoulders, arms and hands. He notes on page 123 that in the chain action of the downswing the hips are the pivotal element. On page 92 he states the surest way to wreck the downswing is to start with the hands and not the hips. History shows that Ben proved himself to be a pretty decent player and ball striker. Try it.

[silowhore]

bender LOL

[kyernst]

Kinematic Sequence, just look it up.

[denwhit]

I think what Mike is trying to demonstrate is how the shoulders do NOT turn back around once they are coiled at the top, until the golf club pulls them around long after the ball is gone. This is the move of a good player. This is also the hardest part of the golf swing... to stay passive with the top waiting for the bump of the hips to let it fall from top. Most of us want to go with a turn of the shoulders because we feel that is powerful, and it is, but we don't want "power", we want speed.

[kyernst]

@denwhit I'd be glad to explain. The club and shoulders do not "wait" at the top, however the lower body is moving (turning and forward) basically at the same moment the club is at the top / this is the transition. Once the hips reach peak speed, then the shoulders get whipped into greater speed and peak, then the arms, and finally the clubhead. Kinematic Sequence. Remember, I never said this drill would not be helpful for some, however factually this is not what happens.

[denwhit]

@kyernst I would love to hear your explanation of what actually occurs in the golf swing. I do know that if the club and shoulders are taken to the top, held there waiting waiting for the hips to turn at this point, the club will be thrown out over the top. I don't think the hips can turn until the club is back down to horizontal as Mike states. Hopefully, Mike Bender will engage you and we'll read some good arguments. As an amateur with overactive shoulders, I am not qualified to teach.

[kyernst]

@denwhit NO, he first said that traditional instruction has taught that the body starts the swing. Then he goes on to say there is a big difference between what happens and "feel". The problem with the tip is this, THE ARMS DO NOT MOVE FIRST! I don't care how you feel, you cannot say that the body does not start first in Tour player and better player swings. Because there is research to prove otherwise, substantial research. Is there merit in feel tips yes, is this info correct - NO!