David Bohm on perception
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@niriop Not quite, in all time in all space it nearly never exists. But existence is just a STATUS at that exact time and exact space reletive to the sensor. This entire 100% correct relative to humans because the true answer over all space and time is not possible to humans.
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does anybody know if the video linked above has been removed...I cant find it on the page
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@godno1god Thanks for the reply. I haven't read as much Schopenhauer as I would have liked to. I've had his Magnum Opus, "The World as Will and Representation", for a few years now but have not gotten around to reading it as of yet. Although I have read a few of his other works; "The Two Fundamental Problems with Ethics", "On the Fourfold Root of the Principle of Sufficient Reason", and a few of his essays. I must surely say that he is one of my favorite philosophers.
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@TheBestInterest You are right friend. Bohm is talking about the world of phenomenon being a mere 'user illusion', but the real world is the unspeakable noumenon. David Bohm is expounding something Arthur Schopenhauer wrote, but independently, which I take as proof of a validity of some kind. Schopenhauer also thought that Kant and Plato were talking about the same thing. Have you read much Schopenhauer? Most people haven’t, which is a shame.
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Just because we deconstruct the structure, does not mean that it is not there
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@superjujujuice - I agree with that. How could I not. Except the feeling part...It's not even that. Is it.
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@MyConsciousnessLives what does not change is real. What you are in your essence; at your core, your 'I AM', does not change, it does not move. "your" I AM is always the same. Ref: Ramana Maharshi, 'I AM That' by Nisargardatta, Jesus' I AM quotes, Mark West and Douglas Harding in youtube, wei wu wei, . Locate your I AM (a feeling NOT a thought) and stay there....regards!
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@superjujujuice - But then what is real?
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...all appearance is illusion. There is actually nothing, nothing at all; see H.H. The Sixth Patriarch Hui Neng (638 - 713)...and of course, the so called educated mind will never, ever get this... physics and philosophy are far, far away; way off...they analyze illusion and take it to be real. That is why "things recede further away..."
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@godno1god Yes, strongly influenced by Kant, clearly. But it seems to me as if this is more in alignment with Schopenhauer's take on Kant than it is with Kant himself.
This entire one-hour-plus video can be viewed by GOOGLING the following website:
"WAKING UP TO ALZHEIMER'S". It's under the category "Beyond Limits: A Tribute to David Bohm".
Samothracian 1 year ago 24
Well there is a conversation between Jiddu krishnamurti and David Bohm on youtube which elaborates on the total perception, or the full approach as you verbalize it.
I think they were talking in terms of the thinking brain as the over dominant part and the mind as the whole: so emotions and feelings are part of the mind, not just the thinking brain, which forms ideas and theories. In that light, ideas are seen as the warping factor, distorting reality.
dougmarkham 2 years ago 3