Ares I, Ares V and the Orion CEV (the best animation ever)
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@ti994apc Lockheed = worst company ever. Late and over budget on every commitment, yet it gets every gov't contract.
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The astronauts leave too clear traces :)
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@bircov: Well, dear bircov. Superficially you are right. But Ares as a God had quite a different quality as I mentioned. I wonder why my comentary was deleted and how you could imagine I wasn´t aware of the ovious - and slightly superficial- idea behind the naming. What I said can easily be proved, with a little effort...and brains ;-) Nomen est Omen as the saying goes in latin...And Ares does not mean Mars in Greek Mythology, that´s exactly the point. Why so insultuing, anyhow?
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We can wait 20 years and billions later for Lockheed to maybe deliver Constellation (or just use all the money like Lockheed did with x-33). Or, we can use Falcon9, and Falcon Heavy. It exists now and it safer, more cost effective, & better in so many ways.
As a space enthusiast, cancelling Constellation inadvertently is the best thing that could have every happened. It will actually boost SpaceX's position and we will see real achievement rather than ground tests and fancy animations.
ti994apc 5 months ago
@ti994apc But Falcon is Private
happyguy82 5 months ago
@happyguy82 NASA already has contracts with SpaceX for resupply missions to ISS. But the CEO of SpaceX primary goal is to go the the Mars and beyond. That's why its dragon capsule will hold 7 people and has heat shield rated at Mars re-entry speeds. So in this case private is good because can launch at least
20 falcon9 cargo missions (or) 10 falcon9 heavy's (or) 10 falcon9 crewed for the cost of a single Ares1. Ares1 after development costs was expected to be 1.4 billion p/launch.
ti994apc 5 months ago
@ti994apc ohh right, ok.
happyguy82 5 months ago
@ti994apc Perhaps the Ares V should be preserved? Its sheer thrust can be used to haul large interplanetary cargos. We continue developing and testing the Ares V, while flying low-cost orbital and lunar missions with the Dragon and Falcon 9 series(we don't need such immense launchers for that). When the Ares V is ready, manned interplanetary missions will no longer be a dream!
masoaviator 1 month ago
@masoaviator yeah agreed.
happyguy82 1 month ago