More heresy from Christianstudents

Christianstudents has responded to my previous video called "Heresy of the Week: Misrepresentation of Transubstantiation." He says that the vatican has changed its teaching on the eucharist and that it is "rhetoric." I refute this rediculous claim by showing how the concept of transubstantiation has been taught in the early church by the ancient fathers, thus proving that it cannot be a new invention.

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[polopowers1]

Becomes completely the body and blood of Christ.? Christ body never saw corruption. Does the bread and wine corrupt in the human body.?.The flesh of Christ was not corruptible but bread and wine is corrubtible. Does Christ corrupt in bread and wine is that possible? You cannot have it both ways in appearance the same but mystically Christ the incorruptible becomes corruptible in bread and wine ?. If the corrubtible corrupts in bread and wine,hence so does Christ, which is impossible.

[OneTrueChurch]

@polopowers1

When the accidents (the appearance of bread and wine) corrupts, it ceases to be the body and blood of christ. So no the body and blood do not corrupt because once the appearance corrupts it is nolonger christ's body and blood so the corruption never touches the body and blood. Also it should be interesting to note that there have been eucharistic miralces where hosts whould bleed and turn to human flesh and remain incorruptible even after hundreds of years

[nanhei]

I have a question: Why does Catholicism not use the same bread Jesus did? (Matzos)

[OneTrueChurch]

we use unleavened wafers, which are practically the same thing just with a smoother texture

[Nycewell]

all religion is rhetoric.

catholicism is a cult.

God is real..religion is just something to make people feel better. There ya go i didnt even have to make a long winded video about it. Dont fear the truth people

[OneTrueChurch]

what is this some diest nonsence?

[polopowers1]

@OneTrueChurch Man is corrupt when receiving the sacrament so he cannot be receiving the body and blood according to your explanation Once the incorruptible touches the corruptible it is defiled. The Nature of God which is all His Virtues can never be satisfied by mystical atonements. Christ is the only exclusive equality to all whom God is in Virtue: His Character. No ceremony or religious activity can accomplish the Virtues of Christ Person in death, satisfying God's Nature for appeasement.

[BuddyNovinski]

@OneTrueChurch I agree. I was Catholic for 32 years. I once bought matzos on sale after a Pesach (Passover), and I found them so dry. I suppose one drinks the wine with them to moisten them!

Transubstatiation links Catholicism with Judaism because the Last Supper was a Seder. Easter occurs after a full moon because Pesach is on the 14 Nisan, and it occurs around a full moon. (All Jewish months begin with a new moon.)

[BuddyNovinski]

I will give you the point that one should not criticize a doctrine without understanding it. I had a hard time trying to understand consubstantiation when I studied Martin Luther. However, I do not criticize any of the four major views of the Lord's Supper: transubstantiation, consubstantiation (physical presence), only spiritual presence, or only a memorial. Priest means a maker of sacrifice.

[beingther]

@beingther this is why one must go by the bible and not mans traditions 

[beingther]

Jhn 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, [they] are spirit, and [they] are life. \

rc might have said it all along but the words of jesus said 1Cr 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned.

[beingther]

funny how cathlics dont go along with the bible but they take one verse out of context and read the hole chapter silly people why not read the bible all of it why have over 70 books and you dont ever study the 66

[edman715]

Exodos 23:15 You will observe the feast of Unleavened Bread. For seven days you will eat unleavened bread, as I have commanded you, at the appointed time...

Exodos 23:18 'You will not offer the blood of my vitim with LEAVENED BREAD, nor will the fat of my feast be kept till the following day.

Just some scriptural prove of what your writting.

[RockyBalboa211]

There are plenty of miracles in history in which the bread did turn into flesh. I mean to take in God in such a physical way proves Gods love for us in totality.