Raid on CCHR exhibition in Stuttgart 02.08.2008

The KVPM (CCHR) opened an exhibition 200m away from their org and they opened for the first time on Saturday 02.08.2008.
We were there of course and educated many people about the real intentions of the CCHR and its ties to Scientology.

Thread on enturbulation.org:
http://forums.enturbulation.org/121-raids/cchr-raid-02-08-08-stuttgart-german...

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• Scientology
• Anonymous
• Stuttgart
• KVPM
• CCHR
• Psychiatrie
• Psychiatry

[Gedankenverbrecher84]

And yes, i have also seen this people beeing ill-treated by forced psychiatric drugging, who afterwards say, they where glad about this.

I think, that's some kind of the so-called "stockholm-syndrom" and they got brain-washed by forced psychiatry. That's my point of view and you don't have to agree.

[Ackerland2]

That is quite a point you make. You are basically saying, there was never someone who was helped by psychotropic drugs or psychologists, or psychiatry. And all those who claim they were helped suffer from Stockholm syndrome. (Yes, I know what it is!)

I disagree.

Nevertheless, I am glad I can have this conversation with you, even though you are probably a Scientologist even if you deny it. I am in favor of fair and balanced research, which you do not get if you visit the CCHR exhibition.

[Gedankenverbrecher84]

You think i was a scientologist, because i do not agree with the common psychiatric system?

If i where a psychiatrist, i wold say you may suffer from some kind of paranoia - you think you where pursued by scientologists everywhere. For a real psychiatrist, this would be a nice reason to keep you in psychiatry and give you forced drugging (because that kind of "illness" may leed to violence).

But fortunatelly, i am neighter a psychiatrist nor a scientologist, if you belive me or not.

[Ackerland2]

No, I actually don't know whether you are one.

But it has always been common practice for their secret service, OSA, to pretend not to be Scientologists and then participate in discussions to drive their points.

In fact, whether you are one or not is not relevant, I think, as we both had ample time to make our points here and now we can let the inclined reader of this discussion draw his own conclusions.

You have to say to my credit: Your video response is still up!

[chaos01a]

@Ackerland2 There are many problems, that we have to meke public, in the psychiatric system. But not every person, who publishes critics regasrding to the health system/ psychiatric system is a member of the "Scientology Church"! I know, that "Gedankenverbrecher84 " has very much information about the psychiatric system. But as I know, he isn't a member of the "Scientology Church"!

With nice greetings, chaos01a

[Ackerland2]

@chaos01a

I don't think it's really relevant whether he is a Scientologist or not. The fact stands and the point I am making is that people who want to take action against abuse of psychiatry must disavow Scientology and must not defend the KVPM even if they may be a powerful ally. If you don't do this, someone will always connect you to the cult of Scientology and you will lose the very credibility that is so very important for you if you want to engage such a powerful player like psychiatry.

[Ackerland2]

I have seen the CCHR videos in its original, too. And I encourage you to have a look at the excellent videos from 13heathens (use the keywords CCHR and 13heathens in youtube search and you'll find them). He details on how facts and fiction have been mixed to evoke a certain response from the viewer.

The "Psychiatry, an industry of death" exhibition is really an awful piece of pure propaganda, and it really does hurt your cause much more than it does help.

[ricca119]

Awesome job Stuttgart. And thanks so much for taking the time to add English subtitles for us english-only folks!

[phasis]

nice enturbulating stuttgartanons!

[CULTbusterz]

GREAT WORK!!!

[Fr0st1989]

Excellent work guys ;D

[loriziell]

go anon

[Gedankenverbrecher84]

If you want to learn something from psychiatry professionals, search for the following names on the internet: "Josef Zehentbauer", "Volkmar Aderhold", "Peter Breggin", "Eva Schwenk".

Unfortunately, it is not possible to post links in this comments, so i can only give you hints for your own research.

[Gedankenverbrecher84]

Just search the internet for "Vera Stein", "Klaus Peter Löser" or "psychiatrieopfer".

There is an endless number of cases like this.

[Jacobsenacc]

They never assosiate the patiant to anything, Though according to sources your treated as the bad one during "psyc checks". tell me, if your not a scientologist, why are you agaist this? its a medical practice just like any other, you need qualifications, it's proven to work. if you nay-say PLEASE give me proof other than the "Citizen commision of human rights". I have yet to receive one link/source for where psycs kill apart form CCHR.

[Jacobsenacc]

These guys are ruthless towards these proffessionals, worse than towards critics. I seen the jist of an article of a women with post-natal (actually said "a women who recently given birth") depression was on a "cocktail" of drugs, your only on a cocktail for chronic joint pains, diabetes, heart conditions ETC. and psyc drugs are pretty much the same, and I feel they are calling ALL schools of medicene unprofressional and unsafe, psyciatry, chemistry, biology and GP's. Healthy competition anyone?