@carlsonap16 raw data is good if 1) actually understands the analytical / statistical methods sufficiently well, and 2) understands all the conditions and methods of how it was collected - as well as any constraints on the method and conditions.
@carlsonap16 Not really, radar doesn't require a participating test subject; it's similar to what speed guns use, and they don't need driver's willingness to participate.
If you honestly think that only raw data is trustworthy, then do you think that matter is made up of atoms? Or that the electron orbits the nucleus? What about the existence of neutrinos? The theories that put a 'bias' on the data are basically just the deductions people have made from raw data.
@Samuelwhatshisface well that only works if those that have he satelites are willing to do it. i thought by your description you were implying someone already did it. when i say hardcore, i merely mean unbiased, the pure (or in other words, the raw) data. raw data is good because it leaves out the biases and allows one to make a decision for oneself.
@carlsonap16 I thought you were trying to think of an experiment to measure the speed of light? There's the experiment, if you want the data, then look for a way to do it. If you want to see the results of other experiments measuring the speed of light, try a google search of 'speed of light measurement experiment'. And you don't seem to know much about data... data isn't hardcore, its either reliable or it isn't, and if it isn't, you do the experiment again to get reliable data.
@Samuelwhatshisface okay i'd like to see the results of a study using the computers. i'd like to see the hardcore data of the satellites. i can only accept the hardcore data
@carlsonap16 Easy to design an experiment to test the speed of light, because we now have satellites orbiting the earth, have two radar signals sent from different locations at different time, and wait for the rebounding signal, time it using a computer (or whatever, but minimise error) from each location, check the distance between the two locations, then you have a triangle, use the cosine rule and you've got the distance, check the times and you get your velocity. Off you go, now.
i'll give you one thing though: your video is a good refutation against some geocentric claims. if the speed of light is correct as you claim it, then your video is correct.
@reuelt01 Congratulations, you managed to compile a paragraph made entirely out of false statements!
kyekire 1 week ago
@carlsonap16 raw data is good if 1) actually understands the analytical / statistical methods sufficiently well, and 2) understands all the conditions and methods of how it was collected - as well as any constraints on the method and conditions.
TheFallibleFiend 1 month ago
@carlsonap16 Not really, radar doesn't require a participating test subject; it's similar to what speed guns use, and they don't need driver's willingness to participate.
If you honestly think that only raw data is trustworthy, then do you think that matter is made up of atoms? Or that the electron orbits the nucleus? What about the existence of neutrinos? The theories that put a 'bias' on the data are basically just the deductions people have made from raw data.
Samuelwhatshisface 1 month ago
@carlsonap16 thanks for the suggestion i will look into it and see if there is a way it can be done or if other experiments have already been done.
carlsonap16 1 month ago
@Samuelwhatshisface well that only works if those that have he satelites are willing to do it. i thought by your description you were implying someone already did it. when i say hardcore, i merely mean unbiased, the pure (or in other words, the raw) data. raw data is good because it leaves out the biases and allows one to make a decision for oneself.
carlsonap16 1 month ago
@carlsonap16 I thought you were trying to think of an experiment to measure the speed of light? There's the experiment, if you want the data, then look for a way to do it. If you want to see the results of other experiments measuring the speed of light, try a google search of 'speed of light measurement experiment'. And you don't seem to know much about data... data isn't hardcore, its either reliable or it isn't, and if it isn't, you do the experiment again to get reliable data.
Samuelwhatshisface 1 month ago
@Samuelwhatshisface okay i'd like to see the results of a study using the computers. i'd like to see the hardcore data of the satellites. i can only accept the hardcore data
carlsonap16 1 month ago
@carlsonap16 Easy to design an experiment to test the speed of light, because we now have satellites orbiting the earth, have two radar signals sent from different locations at different time, and wait for the rebounding signal, time it using a computer (or whatever, but minimise error) from each location, check the distance between the two locations, then you have a triangle, use the cosine rule and you've got the distance, check the times and you get your velocity. Off you go, now.
Samuelwhatshisface 1 month ago
i'll give you one thing though: your video is a good refutation against some geocentric claims. if the speed of light is correct as you claim it, then your video is correct.
carlsonap16 3 months ago