Re: The Physics of Immortality

Response to 2bsirius and her insightful comments on Tipler's book in response to ndclark's video. Thoughts expressed by 2bsirius echo Dylan Thomas' poem "Do not go gentle..."

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[ZTemple1973]

Keep keeping on my brother:)

[LooksAeterna]

The difficulties in determining what these religions are each actually saying may not be due to "subtlety" as much as genuine obscurity. I actually found after years of study of many of them that they themselves really don't know what exactly they propose.

What's more, it appears that the vagueness of a religion is a survival factor because it allows them to morph around factual and logical objections. They do not really transport teachings, but atmospheric and cultural sources of identity.

[tomsoyer84]

God is exist, well ....

[JamesRRedford]

Prof. Frank J. Tipler demonstrates that the Omega Point (i.e., God) is an unavoidable consequence of the known laws of physics. The only way to avoid this conclusion is to reject the known laws of physics (of which have been confirmed by every experiment to date), and hence reject empirical science. For that and the quantum gravity TOE, see F. J. Tipler, "The structure of the world from pure numbers," Rep. Prog. Phys., Vol. 68, No. 4 (April 2005), pp. 897-964; available on Tipler's website.

[caribbeangirl100]

i read the book while on vacation in angulia... the info was exciting , but it was also mind boggling... for 2 -3rds of the book i was completely lost...

[ninjayang]

I'm only about 60 pages into Tipler's book, but from my understanding he is not saying there will not be intelligent life anywhere until we get there. I think he is just describing how our species will evolve and move around the galaxy, other beings notwithstanding. In fact, I think if there are "aliens" out there now, some are probably just the evolved version of our species from the future, and they have figured out how to travel through different dimensions of time.

[Israe5l]

ug, this is the most powerful video I have seen. (I have seen over 800.) Although I have not read the book that you are talking about.

Anyways your devilish presence (anyone who really believe in "love enemy", must be so)fits the media of youtube.

I am struggling about anti-humanism. CAn we afford to hold on to the concept of "human being"?Or can we do without it?

[2bsirius]

I found this by accident because I was wondering if you had made a video recently...Tipler also wrote a "The Anthropic Principle" with Barrows. I spoke about that book in the video, but had to delete it because the video was too long...In that book too he commits many of the same logical flaws he has in the later book. Yes, the problems with Tipler: he know the truth THEN looks at the world. Science does the reverse.

Yes, there are a lots of influences and overlaps in religions.Thanks for that.

[HumanTruth0000]

Interesting video. I had a different impression of that book(physics of immortality). I thought it was a purely scientific investigation and analysis. I have come to understand the author had a strong christian bias he was trying to convey, which is not necessarily a completely negative thing, but it corrupted his investigation and logic. I still will read it since my curiosity has been peaked and I am a fast reader.

[1LBRTY]

When I really, really realize the eventual reality of my own annihilation, I get a horrible emotional feeling...like an anxiety attack. To relieve the anxiety, the discomfort, and the hollow ache, I tell myself the following story...

(here, insert a religion or a philosophy or a Hollywood movie plot, or any story or any other aesthetic experience...any conceptual apparatus of the mind... that takes your awareness away from the feeling)