@nosferotica1 Oh, there would have been a company..they would have put in a straw CEO..kinda like Obama did with GM...someone who will dance to his tune. We just don't have the camps yet...although with the passage of the NDAA, you never know!
The nazis wouldn't have taken the company, those that refused would've went to the camps and there would be no company anymore, not that they weren't more than happy to support the war effort.
Hell, Ford and IBM went there and made use of those labor camps. Everyone but the staatsfeinds won in that country, sir.
@nosferotica1 You still don't get it!! Those "private" industries that profited from the Nazis ONLY profited because they produced EXACTLY what the "Gubmint" told them to...Do you actually believe that if a company refused to do as directed under Nazis that they would remain a "private" company? You live in a dream world..In reality "Nazi" ideas were mostly taken from American Progressives. Look it up!
Well thank you for proving they weren't communist. Misnomers are not uncommon in totalitarian regimes. Marx was no statist.
Read the manifesto, sir. Nationalism is direct contradiction to the entire concept of communism.
Ford, IBM, and Hugo boss are private industries that profited from the Nazi Party. They still had their company, Nazis didn't own the means of production, and they are still around today because they didn't die with the party when they lost.
@nosferotica1 Gee, I'm pretty sure the USSR had a flag, a national identity and a leader...I'm sure China does, North Korea, etc.etc.etc....Just ask the banks that got bailouts, Gubmint Motors, Chrysler, etc.etc.etc....too big to fail, Yeah....I'm pretty sure Obama fired the GM CEO....sound like private enterprise to you????
No government is communist if they have a flag, a national identity, or a leader.
Socialism was the first step toward communism in that it went to work to destroy private property and turns the means of production to the people, who then became the "state."
In order to understand this, you would have to read the "Communist Manifesto."
Private property rights were retained, and Private enterprise still owned the means of production.
@nosferotica1 The Nazis most certainly were Socialist...They weren't COMMUNIST, and it just depends on what your definition of "Is" is...or should it be what "Socialism" is...Yeah, they "reserved the right to make production demands"....LOL..Read about the Nazi (Socialist) agenda and programs in Germany in the 30's...then read about the agenda and programs in the US in oh, say from 1900-1945...the American Progressive Movement...there's not much difference!
The problem is the Nazis weren't socialist. Private Enterprise was alive and well, and there were no workers unions. The Government didn't own the means of production, but reserved the right to make production demands.
@cptphilb
Good story.
nosferotica1 1 month ago
@nosferotica1 Oh, there would have been a company..they would have put in a straw CEO..kinda like Obama did with GM...someone who will dance to his tune. We just don't have the camps yet...although with the passage of the NDAA, you never know!
cptphilb 1 month ago
@Amolitura or you had Jews like George Soros, actively helping the Nazis and denouncing his people, his country and his religion....
cptphilb 1 month ago
@cptphilb
The nazis wouldn't have taken the company, those that refused would've went to the camps and there would be no company anymore, not that they weren't more than happy to support the war effort.
Hell, Ford and IBM went there and made use of those labor camps. Everyone but the staatsfeinds won in that country, sir.
nosferotica1 1 month ago
@nosferotica1 You still don't get it!! Those "private" industries that profited from the Nazis ONLY profited because they produced EXACTLY what the "Gubmint" told them to...Do you actually believe that if a company refused to do as directed under Nazis that they would remain a "private" company? You live in a dream world..In reality "Nazi" ideas were mostly taken from American Progressives. Look it up!
cptphilb 1 month ago
@cptphilb
Well thank you for proving they weren't communist. Misnomers are not uncommon in totalitarian regimes. Marx was no statist.
Read the manifesto, sir. Nationalism is direct contradiction to the entire concept of communism.
Ford, IBM, and Hugo boss are private industries that profited from the Nazi Party. They still had their company, Nazis didn't own the means of production, and they are still around today because they didn't die with the party when they lost.
nosferotica1 1 month ago
@nosferotica1 Gee, I'm pretty sure the USSR had a flag, a national identity and a leader...I'm sure China does, North Korea, etc.etc.etc....Just ask the banks that got bailouts, Gubmint Motors, Chrysler, etc.etc.etc....too big to fail, Yeah....I'm pretty sure Obama fired the GM CEO....sound like private enterprise to you????
cptphilb 1 month ago
@cptphilb
No government is communist if they have a flag, a national identity, or a leader.
Socialism was the first step toward communism in that it went to work to destroy private property and turns the means of production to the people, who then became the "state."
In order to understand this, you would have to read the "Communist Manifesto."
Private property rights were retained, and Private enterprise still owned the means of production.
Just ask Ford, IBM, and Hugo Boss.
nosferotica1 1 month ago
@nosferotica1 The Nazis most certainly were Socialist...They weren't COMMUNIST, and it just depends on what your definition of "Is" is...or should it be what "Socialism" is...Yeah, they "reserved the right to make production demands"....LOL..Read about the Nazi (Socialist) agenda and programs in Germany in the 30's...then read about the agenda and programs in the US in oh, say from 1900-1945...the American Progressive Movement...there's not much difference!
cptphilb 1 month ago
@cptphilb
The problem is the Nazis weren't socialist. Private Enterprise was alive and well, and there were no workers unions. The Government didn't own the means of production, but reserved the right to make production demands.
Misnomers are not uncommon.
nosferotica1 1 month ago