Universal Healthcare Myths

Compares health outcomes and consumer/government spending in relation to universal healthcare vs the current American system. Good luck in the elections!

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[upinya25]

while i agree our hc system blows, one must look further into statistics..many countries count infant mortality different..in some other countries abortions, unhealthy babies lost at birth are not even counted. And as far as Human life expectancy...alot of it also deals with american life styles...we are the fattest unhealthiest country of any and have the poorest diets.

[rockerzindockerz]

US- Obesity 36%

US- Diabetes- 20% and rapidly growing

US- average 25 year old thinks it's okay to spend $120 per month on unlimited text & minutes but UNETHICAL to pay $60 per month on a major medical health plan.

Yeah... go to Canada...um, wait, they come HERE for major medical issues.

dogblessamerica=epic fail

[gipcambero]

Search FRENCH healthcare on Youtube

[OldCottage2]

cont: The US medical industry is a mess because of State-based aggression, not too much freedom. The medical mercantilists paint it as a choice between Eurostatism and good old American statism. Not so. What about MORE freedom?

Society is the voluntary interactions of free people. Individual freedom is pro-society, while violence is parasitic and antisocial.

Will of the majority: If all 6 billion people on Earth decide to murder me, I'd still oppose it. Forget democracy. Believe in freedom.

[OldCottage2]

Taxation is always aggressive. If you don't understand that, you can't tell the difference between violence and voluntary interaction. "You guys"? Don't stick me in a partisan cubbyhole: I'm a market anarchist; I hate war.

Non-aggression is indeed a moral belief (ideological, as you call it), and I'd support it even if it were disastrously inefficient. Fortunately, though, that's only a philosophical question because aggression is not only evil, but totally inefficient. It's parasitism.

[dogblessamerica]

Last of all: Healthcare reform was one of Barack Obamas keystone policies as a presidential candidate. He has been elected by a clear majority. Therefore, health reform is not being 'foisted' on an unwilling American public! Rather, there is a shrinking minority with disproportionately loud, and increasingly agressive voices.

However, in a D E M O C R A C Y, the will of the majority is the key issue (or should be!)

[dogblessamerica]

And that's before you even consider ideas like 'fairness' and 'compassion' which I think are even more fundamental human values than individual freedom. We are individuals, but we are also part of a society and we all have responsibility for each other - not to 'walk by on the other side'.

[dogblessamerica]

Bottom line - the figures are in favour of a form of universal heathcare coverage. Not like the NHS, but a form which works for the US based on the best models such as France or Japan. The only objection you can have is a sort of idealogical one, but I would argue that outcomes are more important than holding to ideologies, and you need to look at what system provides the best OUTCOME for society.

[dogblessamerica]

Yes, but taxation in the interests of health care could hardly be called agressive... unless you are playing semantic games. Taxes are necessary, but the democratic system is there so that the balance can be redressed of necessary. For example, I wouldn't be happy with the amount of tax you guys pay to support aggression (always evil remember?) in the middle east (and support a bloated military who are basically parasitical on the patriotism of the USA. I would vote accordingly.

[OldCottage2]

First of all, what is a free market? A free market, under my definition (don't want to get into semantic games), exists whenever individuals engage in acts of VOLUNTARY exchange, in respect of the natural rights of life, liberty, and (legitimately obtained) property. Any voluntary act of property exchange (trade) is free market. Any non-voluntary/coerced/aggressi­ve/violent act is antithetical to the free market. Aggression is always evil. Agreed?