A good set of local election results

Liberal Democrat Chief Executive Lord Rennard comments on a good set of local election results for the Liberal Democrats.

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[YorkshireDaz]

FPTP also provides the all-important "constituency link" which makes EVERY MP accountable to the electorate. Party lists (the shabby by-product of Proportional Representation) are just a way to pack the legislature with failed politicians and those who either cannot get elected or have been rejected by the electorate. Look at the make-up of the European Parliament and see how many of your local Euro MPs failed to make it to Westminster.

[LibDem]

Party lists are a problem of the sort of proportional representation used for MEPs and MSPs. But the single transferable vote form of PR gives real choice to voters, letting them choose between several candidates from the same party, getting rid of the concept of "safe seats" and retaining a constituency link.

[DavidW47]

Great LibDem success in Newcastle again!

[h8bigbro]

You may have gained a set of councils and many councilors, but your gains have been so spread out that you are actually open to liberal democrat victories in many rural and urban areas. In my area we have had a gain of five liberal democrat councilors all taken from the Tories in their former strongholds.

[LibDemYouth]

I think I'm finished this argument we all have our own views and I wont argue with a tory after I just had to argue with an ignorant BNP member

[YorkshireDaz]

If at the next election Labour won albeit without an overall majority and had to be propped up by Lib Dems, then I wouldn't blame the system. That's the difference between you and me.

Between 1997 and 2003, after 2 general election thrashings, we Tories were licking our wounds hoping that someday we would recover our standing with the electorate, yet we never sought to blame the voting system which allowed Libs & Labour supporters to vote tactically in order to keep the Tories out. Fact.

[LibDemYouth]

oh ok so we are using the old philosophy of "Life is not fair" that is a phrase which no one should use when referring to a "democratic government" what you are realy afraid of is a Liberal minority government with the support of Labour which would actualy bring about some change which is good and being a tory you dont like change a coalition government can still get things done but what it means for you is that the conservatives will not get into power jut like what has happened to the libs

[YorkshireDaz]

Spelling is indeed important and so is good grammar. The fact that so many 16-year olds think that in this technological age spelling is irrelevant, says a lot about society in general. P.S. Life isn't fair, FPTP is probably the fairest system (for the third of fourth time of telling) and when you get to my age you'll look back to the time when you thought that all the worlds problems could be dealt with, with PR and a Lib Dem minority government - and laugh your head off!!

[LibDemYouth]

like Daraghphelan said earlier supplementary vote where not just the top two go foward this is not a PR system and it is more fairer. comparing a league 2 ect football team to the British government? it is not like that. Lib Dems are not complaining because they did not get enough votes they got way more than enough votes for the third party but they didnt get enough!... well you know what I am going to say next.

[LibDemYouth]

Like I said before this is the internet and an internet debate spelling is not important you can understand what im saying. Whats worse a few spelling mistakes or a 33 year old man spending all his time debatign with a 16 year old?

[LibDemYouth]

I was making a valid poijnt their symbol is now a tree because they "care for the enviorment" haha yet they are supposed to be the party for the rich and for farmers ect. So why you have moved left to the centre the Labour party ahve moved right to the centre the only partyt who still stands for what they stood for in the past is the Lib Dems.

[YorkshireDaz]

Also, you say you cannot understand why I am a "Tory" because their tree symbol looks like a five-year old have painted it? I don't particularly like the tree. I preferred the torch, but seriously, who in their right mind supports a political party because of their symbol. And you are studying politics? Scary!!

[YorkshireDaz]

Alright LibDemYouth I'll be charitable. In answer to your question & if you had bothered to read any of my earlier posts you will have observed that on the subject of the voting system I said: "whilst it might not be perfect, it is still the best of all the voting systems around". My opinion granted, but the point I made was that if you win, then don't blame the system.

It's a bit like a minor league football club blaming the rules on goal-scoring for them not winning any games.

[YorkshireDaz]

More spelling mistakes than the Guardian. Now shoo.