Carlos Kleiber - Brahms Symphony No.4 (1st mov./second part)

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Carlos Kleiber conducts Brahms Symphony No.4 (1st mov./second part), with the Bavarian State Orchestra. The best performance.

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  • If this is not heavenly, i'd rather not be in heaven

  • I have to say I prefer Beethoven's 12th in R major. :P

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  • @padredemishijos12 There's a recording of Dudamel with the LA Philharmonic of this work; it won a Grammy for best orchestral recording last night. It's only available as a digital download from iTunes, however.

  • I would love for Gustavo Dudamel and the Simon Bolivar Orchestra of Venezuela perform this Brahms piece.

  • @LombanaClaudio I hate comparisons, Brahms is in the pantheon of composer gods, and all are equal.

  • @000009arisd Maestro Kleiber became Carlos in Argentina, and Gustavo Dudamel is from the other end of South America as is Maestro Daniel Baremboim. Currently other South Americans, from Venezuela: Maestro Diego Matheuz, director of Teatro Fenice in Venice, and Maestro Christian Vasquez, Director of the Stavanger Symphony Orchestra, in Norway. Gustavo Dudamel says that Carlos Kleiber is the best conductor of all time, and he may be right, but Dudamel is a modest and humble man.

  • and, kleiber, you're a hero.

    It's interesting that the only conductor alive today that can maybe touch a little of the glory that was kleiber's mysterious art, gustavo dudamel, is such a different animal, of another era

  • EPOS

  • @corneliusfelix interesting you find this disjointed. he seems to work harder than any conductor i've ever seen to keep the flow of the piece almost uninterrupted and the momentem constant. celi, on the other hand, seems content to stretch the phrase shapes in very unusual ways (although i'd hesitate to call even his idiosyncracies disjointed). anyway, i do love celi in most everything and appreciate his love of orchestral sound.

  • Disjointed - odd, episodic rubbato - celibidache is better imo

  • @tedviolafire If you can, try to locate a copy of the Charles Munch/BSO stereo recording (below); it may also end-up on your 'short list.' And, if you can locate a copy of the 1st piano concerto with Rudolf Serkin & George Szell/Cleveland Orch (Sony), you may be taken aback. The story goes that after recording the 1st mvmnt, the piano had to retuned; some critics knocked Serkin for heavy-handedness, but he & Szell were exactly spot-on. In the 2nd mvmnt, the aching poignancy will melt your heart.

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