Finale aus der 1. Sinfonie c-moll op.68 von Johannes Brahms mit Herbert Blomstedt am Pult und dem Gewandhausorchester Leipzig anläßlich des Festkonzertes zur 100-Jahrfeier Norwegens in Oslo. Viel Spaß!
@UlfenDaddy Sorry don't agree with your theory of players sitting still while playing. If you watch old film of any symphony orchestra they look like stuffed dummies!! (even if the playing is wonderful, which it often is)
Why shouldn't the players move about, the soloists do! It certainly makes for much more interesting and involved watching at a concert or on film/video.
@UlfenDaddy (3) And I started with the comment that the RESULTS here are BEAUTIFUL; which, as you observe, is really the aim of making music. As I stated, what did I do? I did NOT WATCH IT, I LISTENED and enjoyed it, haha! (I can be pretty sarcastic too, even if I can't spell in German.) My point is one of opinion; I don't "like" this style of playing, I never have and never will. Nor for that matter did Beethoven, Schumann, Wagner... OR BRAHMS ever tolerate that from orchestra players.
@UlfenDaddy When I was trained (Viola) my musical masters and mentors were... GERMAN. And they insisted upon not automaton, robotic posture, but Restraint and CONTROL. That is what I do not see in an orchestra such as this. Where one rises to the right, another is dipping to the left, another bowing forward and the other swings his instrument around in curves... That is not UNITY of playing!!! That is 80 or 90 "soloists" each on his own little planet about "interpretation."
@blechmusik Your English is quite understandable; I have no idea how many people attended classical concerts in this country last year but proportionately yes, it is lower than Germany. Our educational system is deplorable just in exposing people to music. "Watching" is about all they Could do, and I think that is a great part of what my complaint is based upon. Yes I agree, the musicains can and should "feel" the music, but I repeat my comment. It comes at a COST in accuracy and execution.
I'd never cared that much for Maestro Blomstedt, but this makes me reconsider. Beautiful work! I can't watch much of the video though; I keep imaging a rehearsal with these players and shouting SIT STILL AND PLAY!!! over and over. I just detest this recent tendency for orchestral players to bob and weave and flail about "with" the music. I would say (and HAVE said to players, many times,) "This is not a DANCE recital; and even if it were... YOU'RE NOT THE DANCERS!"
Also blus das Alphorn heut'...
Nicht nur heute,sondern für immer...
in alle Ewigkeit
Johannes Brahms
akagi2002 3 months ago
They are awesome.
svenskasandy 4 months ago
@UlfenDaddy Sorry don't agree with your theory of players sitting still while playing. If you watch old film of any symphony orchestra they look like stuffed dummies!! (even if the playing is wonderful, which it often is)
Why shouldn't the players move about, the soloists do! It certainly makes for much more interesting and involved watching at a concert or on film/video.
TheVaughan5 4 months ago
Relax on the critics guys the music goes beyond the ears and ego-trip, Music is reduction of ego (Juan Pablo Izquerdo )
7catstied2gether 5 months ago
Very nice coda.
olivleonardo 5 months ago
@UlfenDaddy (3) And I started with the comment that the RESULTS here are BEAUTIFUL; which, as you observe, is really the aim of making music. As I stated, what did I do? I did NOT WATCH IT, I LISTENED and enjoyed it, haha! (I can be pretty sarcastic too, even if I can't spell in German.) My point is one of opinion; I don't "like" this style of playing, I never have and never will. Nor for that matter did Beethoven, Schumann, Wagner... OR BRAHMS ever tolerate that from orchestra players.
UlfenDaddy 7 months ago
@UlfenDaddy When I was trained (Viola) my musical masters and mentors were... GERMAN. And they insisted upon not automaton, robotic posture, but Restraint and CONTROL. That is what I do not see in an orchestra such as this. Where one rises to the right, another is dipping to the left, another bowing forward and the other swings his instrument around in curves... That is not UNITY of playing!!! That is 80 or 90 "soloists" each on his own little planet about "interpretation."
UlfenDaddy 7 months ago
@blechmusik Your English is quite understandable; I have no idea how many people attended classical concerts in this country last year but proportionately yes, it is lower than Germany. Our educational system is deplorable just in exposing people to music. "Watching" is about all they Could do, and I think that is a great part of what my complaint is based upon. Yes I agree, the musicains can and should "feel" the music, but I repeat my comment. It comes at a COST in accuracy and execution.
UlfenDaddy 7 months ago
I'd never cared that much for Maestro Blomstedt, but this makes me reconsider. Beautiful work! I can't watch much of the video though; I keep imaging a rehearsal with these players and shouting SIT STILL AND PLAY!!! over and over. I just detest this recent tendency for orchestral players to bob and weave and flail about "with" the music. I would say (and HAVE said to players, many times,) "This is not a DANCE recital; and even if it were... YOU'RE NOT THE DANCERS!"
UlfenDaddy 7 months ago
If there is a God, it's BRAHMS!!!
SordidGuy 10 months ago