Atheist questions Darwinism after hearing Kirk Cameron

After the debate, an atheist admits he can no longer believe in Darwinian Evolution after hearing that the fossil record completely lacks Darwin's predicted transitional forms. (Kirk Cameron and Ray Comfort's debate with the Blasphemy Challenge group on the existence of God aired on ABC's Nightline 05-09-2007.)

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[TheDeadDudeWalking]

Using dogs as an example was a very bad idea. They are practically PROOF of transitional forms and speciation. All dogs belong to the same subspecies of the gray wolf (canis lupis familiaris). By the definition of species, every dog you find in a home should be able to breed with a gray wolf found in the wild. This will work in 95% of cases. Now try it with a chihuahua. You WILL NOT get FERTILE offspring. They are too genetically different. By the definition of species, they are separate.

[thewayofthemaster]

@TheDeadDudeWalking This is the “big dog-little dog” issue: a Great Dane and a “teacup Chihuahua” will not breed. But if the separation process is reversed, subsequent progeny could reproduce, since there has been no DNA change in this process to prevent it. As little dog progeny get bigger and big dog progeny get smaller, eventually breeding will again be possible. Speciation outside the species has not really occurred, because no DNA change has occurred that would produce new characteristics.

[ahhninjadragon]

There are two kinds of whales: those with teeth, and those that strain microscopic food out of seawater with baleen. It was predicted that a transitional whale must have once existed, which had both teeth and baleen. Such a fossil has since been found.

[thewayofthemaster]

@ahhninjadragon A whale became a different looking whale? That's a different definition of evolution than what we are talkiong about. No species change. It's simply variation within species and not disputed among Creationists.

[flackz16]

This atheist must have had a terrible understanding of evolution if what Kirk Cameron said has changed his mind about it...

[theunbubba]

In the first place the argument is specious. Darwin never said that oine species becomes another. He said that species evolve into new forms. Not that they becone different species. He was inartful in his description of the idea. But he was correct in the ideation. The original species branches out to become many forme. It does not exclude the possibility of interbranch fertility. Horse meet donkey. Produce mule. You could mate a human and an orangutan and get a viable offspring. Look it up.

[TheDeadDudeWalking]

@thewayofthemaster let me get this right, you're saying if the great dane and the chihuahua populations were separated, they would eventually be able to breed with each other again. That's wrong, the opposite should happen. If what your saying is that if you let the chihuahuas and great danes breed with other dogs before breeding with each other, then you're right, they should breed, but they are no longer chihuahuas/ great danes and you missed the point of what I was saying.

[unorthodoxtrotsky]

@flackz16

Yeah, especially when atheist opponents have blew Kirk Cameron's accusation away in the debate.

[LosAngelesFresh1]

Just another Christian posing as an Atheist for this little YT channel.

[glennheston]

Why would anyone believe Cameron? He's an idiot.

[Pandasareourfuture]

@thewayofthemaster Never the less these two types of whales are different species of whales. I know that creationists imagine that evolution is saying that two completely different species, can become one another seemingly by magic but thats not the case and would actually disprove evolution. Kirk keeps mentioning that there hasn't been a crocoduck found, well good... because that would disprove evolution as well. He should really get educated about what he's arguing about...

[Sinnessa]

Not even Kirk Cameron believes Kirk Cameron.