The Cosmological False Premise

I enjoy talking about this stuff way too much. Guess that's why I want to go teach it.

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[hyperish1234]

though i believe in an infinite God and infinite time, that is a supernatural element. I don't think you could say you only make your premises on science and logic and then adopt a supernatural element such as infinity. A true infinity defies the laws of science does it not?

[Overthehills4547]

I like how you are pretty much using sleight of mouth here. You immediately conclude that because you cannot comprehend something infinite in our world, then it must be supernatural(in this case, infinity).

I don't really have enough room to describe the nature of infinity in relation to spacetime. But rest assured, it is not in defiance of the "laws of science."

[hyperish1234]

Though you are correct that there is no evidence that there was a beginning other than it exists, there is a logical conclusion there. You said yourself that the universe is expanding, so wouldn't it have to have some starting point? and is there scientifically such a thing as a true infinity? I know we use it figuratively in math, but there's no real number known as "infinity" it's not possible scientifically.

[Overthehills4547]

You seem to be confused about the nature of the beginning of the universe. The Big Bang is like a very small deflated balloon being the whole of existence, and then it beginning to rapidly inflate. In this case, the surface of the balloon is a model of our universe. The "starting point" of expansion can actually be described as every point in the universe, do to the nature of the expansion of space.

[kokobaboko]

There has never been any evidence for any god concept. There is no debate.

[jamescat1]

hahah I like how you're developing. Here you seem to know , know, about how time started, in later videos, you understand that no one can 'know' these things and doubt other things.

[GrandSweep]

And just in case you want my opinion (even though you probably don't) I think that atheist logic (as in train of thought) revolves not around reason or logic ( as in A=), but around a profound agnosticism.aka. Lack of motivation, purpose, or more plainly. You don't really give a shit.

I want to see an atheist who gives a shit. Because then I can enjoy conversations that get places.

think about it...

[GrandSweep]

Premise 2.

I will deny God if you can disprove premise 2. But it can't be done. You can argue all day about aspects of God, or what defines God. But if you can somehow rap your head around an argument that revolves around nothing blowing up and creating everything.... I don't know what to say.

And I'm not trying to be a smart ass. You'll probably get pissed when you read this. But walk yourself through it, and make a video on that. I'd like to see that.

[hyperish1234]

you often use "sleight of mouth" as well in many arguments you make, and i would definitely love to hear how infinity is scientifically possible. email or video or something?

[Overthehills4547]

Sweet!