@RebelWrestler45 Uhh, not really. Human flesh is hella elastic. Which actually leaves a stretch cavity next to useless in quite a few scenarios. But when you hit tissue like liver, it tears like sin. issue does compress, but not like gel. It get's crushed, and is deemed 'dead'. There's no reviving that flesh afterwards, it has to be cut out to effectively treat it.
@Derail07 It is more a matter of bullet design than the power of the 223. You're correct. With the proper bullet the little 223 can effectively down deer assuming good bullet placement. My little girl killed her first 2 deer at age 10 with a 223 loaded with the old Federal law enforcement load that used the Trophy Bonded 55 grain bullet. Both passed through the chest and left a nickel sized exit wound.
@dysqsarhut Ballistic gelatin isn't an accurate simulation of human tissue, it only mimics the density and resistance of the human body cavity. There is no real 'stretch cavity' in human tissue when it comes in contact with a high velocity projectile, because it has very limited elasticity, the tissue simply ruptures creating a larger wound channel. Being a solid, however, human tissue cannot compress to the degree that an aqueous mass can, thus reducing transfer of energy.
@RebelWrestler45 Read real closely, Hydrostatic shock is the liquids of an organism being displaced harshly enough to cause damage to fragile internal structures like the brain or liver. The stretch cavity is tissue being displaced by the force of a projectile. They are not the same thing. What you observe in an organism shot with a high powered rifle is 'minced' tissue caused by the crushing force. If you observe the brain you would notice lacerations along any liquid containing vessels.
@dysqsarhut Ballistic gelatin is a solid, therefore no true hydrostatic shock occurs, but the stretch cavity observed in ballistic gelatin is analogous to hydrostatic shock, in that it provides a visual representation of the relative force and scope of the displacement of matter. This is where ballistic gelatin fails; it is homogeneous, the body cavity is not.
@hammerogod
Also it's damn accurate and has longer range than most intermediate rounds.
If you're lucky, the bullet will fragment as well, ripping tiny exit wounds all over.
Seen an exit wound the size of a football once due to the fragmentation.
weaverguy 2 months ago
@dysqsarhut well put.. exactly
jdseams 3 months ago
Too answer the question on if the .223 three aka 5.56 is lethal. Marine shoots insurgent dies nuff said
Astrorage 3 months ago
Eye Candy.
Nobody has ever effectively questioned the lethality of .223.
It is a badass round.
Only the reliability of the early versions of the M-16 were ever an issue.
After most of the issues were addressed and corrected the M-16 became as lethal a weapon as possible.
.223 is deadly for several reasons.
~Speed.
~Retention of Kinetic energy.
~Number of rounds that can be carried in a manageable magazine.
It's also a great varmint round.
hammerogod 3 months ago
@RebelWrestler45 Uhh, not really. Human flesh is hella elastic. Which actually leaves a stretch cavity next to useless in quite a few scenarios. But when you hit tissue like liver, it tears like sin. issue does compress, but not like gel. It get's crushed, and is deemed 'dead'. There's no reviving that flesh afterwards, it has to be cut out to effectively treat it.
dysqsarhut 4 months ago
@Derail07 It is more a matter of bullet design than the power of the 223. You're correct. With the proper bullet the little 223 can effectively down deer assuming good bullet placement. My little girl killed her first 2 deer at age 10 with a 223 loaded with the old Federal law enforcement load that used the Trophy Bonded 55 grain bullet. Both passed through the chest and left a nickel sized exit wound.
MultiGuntoter 5 months ago
i LOVE hydrostatic shock.
Grunt922 5 months ago
@dysqsarhut Ballistic gelatin isn't an accurate simulation of human tissue, it only mimics the density and resistance of the human body cavity. There is no real 'stretch cavity' in human tissue when it comes in contact with a high velocity projectile, because it has very limited elasticity, the tissue simply ruptures creating a larger wound channel. Being a solid, however, human tissue cannot compress to the degree that an aqueous mass can, thus reducing transfer of energy.
RebelWrestler45 5 months ago
@RebelWrestler45 Read real closely, Hydrostatic shock is the liquids of an organism being displaced harshly enough to cause damage to fragile internal structures like the brain or liver. The stretch cavity is tissue being displaced by the force of a projectile. They are not the same thing. What you observe in an organism shot with a high powered rifle is 'minced' tissue caused by the crushing force. If you observe the brain you would notice lacerations along any liquid containing vessels.
dysqsarhut 5 months ago
@dysqsarhut Ballistic gelatin is a solid, therefore no true hydrostatic shock occurs, but the stretch cavity observed in ballistic gelatin is analogous to hydrostatic shock, in that it provides a visual representation of the relative force and scope of the displacement of matter. This is where ballistic gelatin fails; it is homogeneous, the body cavity is not.
RebelWrestler45 5 months ago