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The thing is that there are a lot manuals that say the same thing. And there are not so many ways to explain and interpret "grab his arm tight and take your other arm around his neck like in this image, then trow him over your hip".
Something that would have strike me as odd is if europeans did/do throw and grapple totally different from how asians did/do. The human body is strikingly similar.
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@Caliburnis Yes, they are. The historical manuals you talk about are way to vague to explain detailed techniques like that. Besides: Don't you find it striking how much this stuff resembles the asian martial arts?
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@kaindrg the music is from "the witcher" soundtrack
title : The lesser of two evils
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congratulations on this very, very nice demonstration of europ. martial arts!! It is a joy to watch this! I have to admit, when I read eg. Ringecks work on wrestling I somehow puzzeld how to put these technics into practis - but watching this is truly eye-opening!!! I wish you all the best for the future - greetz from Austria.
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waht is this music ? its pretty epic
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@Giagantus actaully i looked at the egyptian paintings and the opeing grips do seeming similar to that of ancient greco roman. i under as the need for evidence but from what i can see other than the fake pacrationist douche on human weapon selling kick boxing and bjj by marketing it as somethign its not. ACTAsonias channels demonstration see little influence from the biases of modern understanding of MA even though it would be the real thing it worth checking bro
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@kaindrg If that the case the one cannot claim (using you Cultural Universalis) that pankration (via Alexander) inspired or created the eastern martial arts as TheLoki7281 claimed. I look at that channel if there is time. Also not that Egypt is alot more than african and/or black. And it's a undeniable fact that the elder civilization influenced the greeks. Also unless there is clear descendent's the reproduction (of Greco-roman MA) will always be modern interpretations. Adn there isn't
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@EvidensInsania that bothers me to ppl find it strange that im asian and i defend western martial arts against perceptions(false) of western. the first society that tried to bring back traditional fighting methods had little success because europeans though only moder fencing was superior because it was a nobel sport. japanese only were obsesed during world war two before the nationalist brain wash they didnt give a shit about samurais.
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@kaindrg I agree with you on America getting their hands on it, but I believe that the Japanese still thought highly of Samurai unlike we Europeans did about our knights. For instance in WWII many Japanese soldiers bought cheap katanas to take with them into battle. But the thing that really bothers me is how most people consider Samurai and ninjas to be such amazing warriors while in comparison European knights were just drunk idiots blindly swinging their apparently "inferior" swords around.
as we can see the japanese don't have a monopoly on throws or sword skills
eddiedaskull 1 year ago 14
@temmy9
Well all humans are built the same way essentially so it's no surprise that the arts look so similiar, there are only so many ways to break an arm for instance.
Giagantus 1 year ago 6