Constitution Lecture 5: Federalism vs. Nationalism

While the Constitution was framed, debate was split over whether we should have a federalist or a nationalist government. This lecture covers the controversy and how it was resolved in the Constitution.

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[Surhotchaperchlorome]

I'm having trouble finding that name change from "Nationalist to Federalists".

Do you know where I can find this?

[shanedk]

It happened between Gouverneur Morris's comments in the debates (see Madison's notes) and the publication of the Federalist Papers.

[ryanjurek]

I think our constitutional framers may be kicking themselves right now for nationalizing the monetary system.

[shanedk]

The founders were actually quite adamant that there be no central bank, which is the biggest part of our woes. So instead of kicking themselves, they'd probably be saying, "We told you so!"

Hamilton might be kicking himself, though...

[23hari]

Nationalist V Federalism.

There are countries in this world that clame to be federalist but in practice are nationalist with power concentrated at centre. They are only federalist in name.

[shanedk]

Including ours.

[ryanjurek]

I'd love to learn more about the constitution and America's political heritage. I just don't trust State-run Academia to give me the honest picture. =)

[DarkAngelGRM]

Additionally I like how you keep trying to press A. 1 S. 8 on everyone.

The government is controlling most of the US unconstitutionally and people rather sit there and let it go on than do something about it.

[proconsulaugustus]

@ryanjurek This is not State-run academia. Are you saying this guy works for the government?

[mangoswiss]

Shane, your videos are fascinating. I'm based in the UK so none of it applies directly to me but it's fascinating all the same.

[teddythefrency]

I tend to think that a federal organization system is a caution against the dangers of nationalim and chauvinism, during the French Revolution the "Jacobines" (centralists)won against the "Girondines"("federalists").

Maybe I am not right, but I wish federalism or something approaching for my country.

[DarkAngelGRM]

Hameltionians LMAO

Sounds like some alien race.

On a serious note I'm really enjoying these.

[TheAtheistTEEN]

actually i was a little confused about the Hamilton quotes aswell, don't get me wrong i give the guy his props but you make him out be far more the gentlemen than i remember being taught...

he was kinda fickle though...

[blankfist]

Brilliant series of lectures. Madison (with Monroe) wasn't just philosophically aligned with the Jeffersonians, he was a Jeffersonian and much a Republican (not modern).

I love these lectures, though I am a touch dismayed at the number of Hamilton quotes to favor Republicanism in the past lecture (Dem vs. Repub), as his political position was against both Republicanism and Democracy. By him speaking against Democracy he was motivated in favor of strong central government not a Republic.

[Surhotchaperchlorome]

It also just occurred to me that when I was debating with these dogmatic anarchists that when they were saying "Shane must be too stupid for Anarchy" they must not have noticed that you cited the source for your definitions, even if the modern sources like WIkipedia (the one they used to try and dispute your claims) forget to include this minor, yet important detail.

[Surhotchaperchlorome]

Assuming that talks of Federalism in the context/meaning of this video: Thanks for the reference. :)

No kidding...

Along with the bailouts presided over by Bush... All thanks to President Bushama!

[Surhotchaperchlorome]

I even tried (before he made up this strawman) explaing like you did that Federalism = bottom up pyramid of power with individuals having most of it, while nationalism is the opposite. Both are forms of federal government organization. I never said that it wasn't when I talked to him.