Fog of War - Eleven Lessons from the Life of Robert S McNamara (9 episode)
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@matako07 I agree he new all about agent orange and it's dangers. He will never admit it but who would . No one.
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Johnson was a total fool who should have never ever been in charge of anything !!! He drove McNamara nut's and McNamara new he had no brains ......
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I don't agree with Lesson #9.
"In order to do good, you may have to engage in evil."
If you feel that you are doing good by doing evil, you either need to redefine what you consider to be evil, or you aren't doing good. Remember, context is always important to the value judgements we make.
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the problem with the vietnam war is (well war it's self is the problem, but...) that it was directed by the arrogant, I refer to the US's lack of respect for the vietcong and the folly of underestimating one's adversary. The US waged that war without honor; bear in mind when there is war there is glory and men of honor, yet only one may return home, the other forever remains on the battlefield consumed by the fog. Our leaders have no honor. They are no klingons! They like any patagh are cowards!
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@tuzmor Who said anything about sympathy? I never mentioned it. I just thought it was a good quote and a "lesson" that's all too valid today.
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Black OPs dude HOLY SHIT
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he's playing Dumb here. There is now way a man of his intelligence could NOT know Vietnamese History or that Agent Orange is a carcinogen.
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This man may have made mistakes, but he has the courage to own up to it and admit it. A quality almost all people in positions of political power lack.
I respect this man.
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Macnamara, war criminal as much as the US generals and their bombing of Tokyo with fire bombs.
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what you should take away from this film is the level of cognitive dissonance everyone included during the war experienced. Push forward! Do obscene things that go against your better judgement!!!!
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"If we can't persuade nations with comparable values of the merit of our cause, we'd better reexamine our reasoning."
ptroinks 1 year ago 15
@MELISSA3536 indeed not many people in this world have the courage to speak publicly about their mistakes espacially government officials. this is something george w bush needs to learn how to do
sgtgrizzo 6 months ago 3