CFI Ottawa, The Ottawa Skeptic Society, and a bunch of other people, gather on Parliament Hill to join in the international Ten23 challenge (http://www.1023.org.uk/) of downing whole bottles of homeopathic "remedies".
Also, this was basically just a test, but my phone takes pretty good video it seems. I'll have to remember that for later!
@Gisburne2000 lol... yeah.. i definitely agree that an ingredient should be detectable at least. Hat's donkey crap analogy is s good example.. I could contain just as much of that as whatever else they claim is in it. And yes "intellectual fatigue" was the most ridiculous one we could find. Thats why we got it. lol.
Aprilshowersss 1 year ago
@Aprilshowersss Not only are the remedies useless, they've come up with medical conditions for which we don't even need a cure! 'Intellectual Fatigue'?!! Wait, isn't that what you get when you try to explain for the thousandth time why this is all nonsense? And I still maintain that if they SAY it contains Kalium Phosphoricum, then that can be scientifically shown to be true or false. If it can't be detected they shouldn't be able to say it's in there.
Gisburne2000 1 year ago
@Gisburne2000 the bottle that we took claims to be a remedy for "Intellectual fatigue". The ingredient listed is simply a chemical called Kalium Phosphoricum at a dilution of 30 c. So... basically id have to take about 4 universes worth of these tablets in order to get one molecule of the active ingredient. So it isnt necessarily a LIE, because if you understand anything about the dilution process, by reading the label you will understand that the active ingredient isnt in there.
Aprilshowersss 1 year ago
@Gisburne2000 I don't know of any study that has tried that, but people ARE mostly water, so logically I can't see how it would be any different. Still won't work, but for all the same reasons :)
AtheistInTheHat 1 year ago
@AtheistInTheHat Does this method for making things remember when you shake them also apply to children? Just for future reference, in case I need a legal defence... er, never mind.
Gisburne2000 1 year ago
@Gisburne2000 That would work...or..well...you know what I mean.
AtheistInTheHat 1 year ago
@AtheistInTheHat Cocktail shaker! Come come, this is no challenge at all to a man of science!
Gisburne2000 1 year ago
@timothypilgrim Yeah I know. I guess CTV figured the CFI, being an international organization, was what they should mention, ignoring the Ottawa Skeptics (and a few other people that showed up seemingly at random, which was kinda cool). The CTV blurb (which is also found on my channel, not sure if that's the version you meant or not), doesn't even mention the 10:23 Challenge, which was the whole point of having the event yesterday, and was mentioned on ALL OF OUR HATS. Local news fail.
AtheistInTheHat 1 year ago
@Gisburne2000 No no...you can't STIR it. You have to SHAKE it. Why they think that matters, or even THEORETICALLY how that might make the water "remember" what they put into it, I have no idea...and neigther do they, because no one has ever offered an even remotely scientific mechanism for the effect they claim. But then...how could they, since it doesn't actually work. heh.
AtheistInTheHat 1 year ago
What do they put on the ingredients label for these things? Surely that is going to catch them out legally if someone subsequently tests it and what they say is in it is not in it (please parse that last bit responsibly). If I buy something and it says 'contains xyz', then it had better actually contain xyz. (If not, it's back to the alphabet soup shop for a refund)
Gisburne2000 1 year ago