The US government is becoming as controlling and intrusive as those other shit holes that lack freedom, people are losing opportunity as this collectivism bullshit is perpetrated. When our people were free, both economically and socially, we were the envy of the world. As we lose our freedom page by page, we are becoming more and more like the rest of the broke ass world. Obama is not a patriot. As a global citizen, he believes all that Marxist Commie bullshit. And we are now paying for it.
I love how everyone thinks with hardwork you can become a millionaire too,well a LOT of people work hard,so where are the multitude of millionaires, why is it that the top 1 % has more money than 95% of the people in america?
@bwheel012 I love your "every man for himself" kind of vibe that is so typical of America. Other countries see things differently; we believe that we're one big family. The CEO stands on the shoulders of those beneath him and couldn't have made it without is brothers. From teachers, to construction workers, to the people that buy his product, to the soldiers that stand by and gaurd the borders for him. Nobody truly makes it "on their own"
@mordred612 check out the 2007 treasury income mobility report, just google it it's the first link. the rich and poor are not the same people over time, a lack of opportunity really isn't as big of a problem as you'd think. make sure you're distinguishing between equality of opportunity and opportunity of results. the CBO has concluded similar findings: when you track the same people over time, the poor get richer and the rich get poorer
@Welsh77 Well, if you go back far enough we were all born from the cosmic soup, right? I'm interested in the lack of opportunity today. Actually, the lack of education in the poor classes insures future people who are willing to work for nothing or rather have to. The cost of education is on the rise. Fewer people will be able to afford it which means less competition for the wealthy. A whole new crop of wage slaves is being produced. Welcome to the United Fascist States of Corp. America.
@mordred612 that's actually really not true, at least if you look at 2 or 3 generations. most of the people in the 3.1 million americans in the top 1%'s grandparents were lower middle class or flat out poor. to say you can't move up in this country is absurd. intergenerational poverty is a result of not valuing education. why should we fund the schools more when the kids don't want to go to school, and their parents don't care if they do? the problem is an attitude of ignorance.
@mordred612 that's right. They do get it "better" from birth. Silver spoon, blah blah blah. I don't want to hear that equal opportunity garbage---the library is free. Magnet schools , gifted programs are free, and to anyone with a little pride in himself , one can succeed. It's about work ethic and what one wants in life. As for the flat tax only being fair if everyone makes the same amount----bull. The flat tax is a percentage---if you make more you pay an "equal" amount but still pay more.
@bwheel012 Statistically a majority of the highest paid people in the US were born in a position of advantage. They were didn't have to worry about working while in high school to help out their family. They didn't have to worry about being shot in their neighborhood. They had parents who provided guidance. They went to "better" schools. They went to "better" universities. A flat tax would be a great idea if we all made the same amount of money.
@mordred612 the people who are CEOs knew what they were getting into when they started their loooong journey to become what they are. People make their own decisions. If you want something YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE for getting it. The government has no right to regulate what the companies do with their own money. It's actually their responsibility to protect my possessions, which includes the money I've worked for. I say give us a flat tax rate for everyone. What's more fair than that?
The US government is becoming as controlling and intrusive as those other shit holes that lack freedom, people are losing opportunity as this collectivism bullshit is perpetrated. When our people were free, both economically and socially, we were the envy of the world. As we lose our freedom page by page, we are becoming more and more like the rest of the broke ass world. Obama is not a patriot. As a global citizen, he believes all that Marxist Commie bullshit. And we are now paying for it.
luke55664 4 months ago
I love how everyone thinks with hardwork you can become a millionaire too,well a LOT of people work hard,so where are the multitude of millionaires, why is it that the top 1 % has more money than 95% of the people in america?
Lubotsulat 4 months ago
@bwheel012 I love your "every man for himself" kind of vibe that is so typical of America. Other countries see things differently; we believe that we're one big family. The CEO stands on the shoulders of those beneath him and couldn't have made it without is brothers. From teachers, to construction workers, to the people that buy his product, to the soldiers that stand by and gaurd the borders for him. Nobody truly makes it "on their own"
DanLetts97 5 months ago
Hey neighbor, get off my lawn & stop stealing from my trash can. Anyone but Obama in 2012!!'
jckoenigs69 5 months ago
@mordred612 check out the 2007 treasury income mobility report, just google it it's the first link. the rich and poor are not the same people over time, a lack of opportunity really isn't as big of a problem as you'd think. make sure you're distinguishing between equality of opportunity and opportunity of results. the CBO has concluded similar findings: when you track the same people over time, the poor get richer and the rich get poorer
Welsh77 5 months ago
@Welsh77 Well, if you go back far enough we were all born from the cosmic soup, right? I'm interested in the lack of opportunity today. Actually, the lack of education in the poor classes insures future people who are willing to work for nothing or rather have to. The cost of education is on the rise. Fewer people will be able to afford it which means less competition for the wealthy. A whole new crop of wage slaves is being produced. Welcome to the United Fascist States of Corp. America.
mordred612 5 months ago
@mordred612 that's actually really not true, at least if you look at 2 or 3 generations. most of the people in the 3.1 million americans in the top 1%'s grandparents were lower middle class or flat out poor. to say you can't move up in this country is absurd. intergenerational poverty is a result of not valuing education. why should we fund the schools more when the kids don't want to go to school, and their parents don't care if they do? the problem is an attitude of ignorance.
Welsh77 5 months ago
@mordred612 that's right. They do get it "better" from birth. Silver spoon, blah blah blah. I don't want to hear that equal opportunity garbage---the library is free. Magnet schools , gifted programs are free, and to anyone with a little pride in himself , one can succeed. It's about work ethic and what one wants in life. As for the flat tax only being fair if everyone makes the same amount----bull. The flat tax is a percentage---if you make more you pay an "equal" amount but still pay more.
bwheel012 5 months ago
@bwheel012 Statistically a majority of the highest paid people in the US were born in a position of advantage. They were didn't have to worry about working while in high school to help out their family. They didn't have to worry about being shot in their neighborhood. They had parents who provided guidance. They went to "better" schools. They went to "better" universities. A flat tax would be a great idea if we all made the same amount of money.
mordred612 5 months ago
@mordred612 the people who are CEOs knew what they were getting into when they started their loooong journey to become what they are. People make their own decisions. If you want something YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE for getting it. The government has no right to regulate what the companies do with their own money. It's actually their responsibility to protect my possessions, which includes the money I've worked for. I say give us a flat tax rate for everyone. What's more fair than that?
bwheel012 5 months ago