Refuting Tooltime Part Three: The Synoptic Problem

http://www.atheist-experience.com/archive/AtheistExp-2009-05-24.mp3

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[captwasabi]

Hey Kabane. Can you please explain why all the other gods are not real? Can you explain why the Mesopotamian story of the world's creation is so similar in detail to the Old Testament story in Genesis? Lastly, can you please explain why it seems that christianity seems to have copied so many pagan stories of god men such as Semele, mother of Dionysus, who has a 7 month pregnancy and how Dionysus shared a last supper with his 12 disciples. Seriously dude, your religion is copying from other ones!

[KabaneTheChristian]

@captwasabi

The Mesopotamian story of Creation isn't similar to the Jewish story of creation. The only real example you might have of parallels is Genesis 6-7 and the Epic of Gilgamesh, though a case can be made that the Genesis narrative is the more primitive tradition and that they derive from a common source.

Friend, that Dionysus thing is simply false. I have a plethora of videos on the topic of "pagan parallels" to Jesus and Dionysus is addressed.

[captwasabi]

@KabaneTheChristian I don't know why I thought speaking to one of the blind would have any different results this time. First off, you can't simply vacate Dionysus because you say so as the mythology is there. His mother is reported to have had a 7 month pregnancy just as Mary supposedly did with Jesus. He also had 12 disciples. Lastly, the Enuma Elish so closely mirrors the story of Genesis that only a person as blind as you could not see it. Enjoy your ignorance.

[KabaneTheChristian]

@captwasabi

rofl, wow. First, point me to where in the Bible Mary is said to have been pregnant seven months. Okay, next, please point me to the source within the primary texts of the Greek religions where Dionysus is said to have had Twelve Disciples. Third, quote the Enuma Elish and compare it with the account[s] given in Genesis 1 and 2. If you can't do this, then you are the blind one.

[captwasabi]

@KabaneTheChristian Also, incase you can't make the connection between the jeesus 12 and the Dion 12, the christians just removed the mention of any other "gods" since there is only the one, right [wink, wink, nudge, nudge].

Then again, god does refer to himself in the plural in the book of Gensis AND Judiaism does not, in any manner, way, shape or form accept the notion of a human god that does leave us with some pretty interesting questions to answer, no?

[captwasabi]

@KabaneTheChristian 2nd gen of Enuma Elish gods brought forth a division of the waters. The 3rd Gen of gods brought forth the creation of dry land. Is any of this looking familiar to you yet? 4th gen = lights in the sky. 5th gen = creation of animals and the like. Stop me if you've heard this. So obviously, as even my 12 year old son can tell, there are amazing similarities between the Enuma elish and your precious jesus myths.

[captwasabi]

@KabaneTheChristian According to most myths Dionysus has a retinue of 16 followers, 12 human and 4 gods. As for the Enuma Elish, the 6 gens of the gods represent the 6 days of gods creation. Marduk, one of the 6th gen gods, creates man as his slave so that the other gods may rest. On the 6th day god creates man and then rests. The first generation of the EE gods created a formless void. The first day of creation was a formless void...really? Do I have to hold your hand through this any more?

[SonnyDelight55]

Actually, Bart Ehrman deconverted because of the problem of evil. Thats what he said in his book.

[rrpostalagain]

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